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Sentence #122618

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small_snow small_snow March 30, 2021, edited March 30, 2021 March 30, 2021 at 8:33:32 AM UTC, edited March 30, 2021 at 9:31:57 AM UTC link Permalink

関連:

[#9927059] 内閣総理大臣指名選挙が行われ、第82代内閣総理大臣に橋本龍太郎氏が選出されました。
[#9927039] 日本の国会は、第82代首相に橋本龍太郎氏を指名した。
[#122618] 天皇陛下が、第82代総理大臣に橋本龍太郎氏を正式に任命なさいました。
[#9927094] 橋本龍太郎氏は、初代・伊藤博文から数えて53人目の首相である。

JimBreen JimBreen April 5, 2021 April 5, 2021 at 5:44:28 AM UTC link Permalink

This has completely broken a Japanese/English sentence pair. I've removed it from the set.

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen April 5, 2021, edited April 5, 2021 April 5, 2021 at 6:27:42 AM UTC, edited April 5, 2021 at 6:50:04 AM UTC link Permalink

There were several issues:

• 第52第首相 should have been 第52代首相 of course.
• The English translation said "today", but the original version of the Japanese sentence did not.
• As for the content, according to the Western tradition, he was the 53rd prime minister, not the 52nd.
• It seems that in Japan terms of office would be counted rather than individual prime ministers, so they would count him as the 82nd and 83rd.
• The prime minister is designated by both houses of the National Diet, but it is the Emperor who formally appoints the prime minister.

The newly added Japanese sentences attempt to solve these issues. The English sentence and its translations remain unchanged, including the wrong romanisation of the name 橋本龍太郎.

Sorry for the inconvenience. I should have sent you a message.

small_snow small_snow April 5, 2021, edited April 5, 2021 April 5, 2021 at 8:48:09 AM UTC, edited April 5, 2021 at 9:40:35 AM UTC link Permalink

私は、Pfirsichbaeumchenさんのご提案に同意し、幾つかの関連する例文を追加しました。お役に立てると信じています。ご連絡が遅れ、大変申し訳ございません。

JimBreen JimBreen April 12, 2021 April 12, 2021 at 10:56:01 PM UTC link Permalink

I understand and appreciate the comments, but I was surprised that the original text of #122618 was replaced almost entirely. I thought the usual practice was to add a *new* sentence and add comments to the old one pointing out its faults.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez April 12, 2021 April 12, 2021 at 11:22:40 PM UTC link Permalink

From what I've seen, new sentences are added while nothing happens to the old ones, they're just left orphaned and without a comment (probably more time-efficient that way)

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日本の国会は、第52第首相に橋本龍太郎氏を正式に選出した。

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天皇陛下が、第82代総理大臣に橋本龍太郎氏を正式に任命なさいました。

edited by Pfirsichbaeumchen, March 30, 2021