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Sentence #213534

そして[ソシテ] 、[、] 電車[デンシャ] は[ハ] キーッ[キーッ] という[トイウ] 音[オト] を[ヲ] 立て[ダテ] て[テ] 止まっ[トマッ] た[タ] 。[。]

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  1. Jun 17th 2013, 03:00
    This sentence is linked to the とまる reading of 止まる. I know that in some cases 止まる can be read やまる colloquially to mean "to cease; to stop; to be over". Can one of our Japanese native speakers look over the 止まる sentences and point out any where やまる would be better? You can see the list at http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~...8%A4%DE%A4%EB_ (There are only 116 of them.... 8-)} )
  2. Jun 17th 2013, 03:30
  3. Jun 17th 2013, 03:31
    Indeed, but since we have about 160 sentences with 止まる already (incl. some for the とどまる reading), it would be easier/better if some of the existing ones were reindexed (which is a lot easier than completely indexing news sentences.)
  4. Jun 17th 2013, 03:56
    >> この116文はすべて「とまる」です。


    >> 「やまる」って方言じゃないですか?

    大辞林 says it's "俗", and doesn't mention any particular 弁. I have tagged it "col" for "colloquial".

    It would be nice to have one example sentence where 止まる is read やまる, even if it is very slangy.
  5. Jun 17th 2013, 04:15

    やま・る 0 【▽止まる】(動ラ五[四])
    やんだ状態になる意の俗な言い方。やむ。 「道楽が―・らない」

  6. Jun 17th 2013, 05:43
    If it's the first time bunbuku has heard of the やまる 読み方 of 止まる, I'll forget about it. Thanks for the feedback.
  7. Jun 17th 2013, 08:14
  8. Jun 17th 2013, 12:56
    大丈夫です。 I don't think the やめる case is worth pursuing.
  9. Jun 17th 2013, 13:53
  10. Jun 18th 2013, 02:39
    Sorry, in my haste I didn't see you referred to やめる instead of やまる. Yes a check of the 止める sentences would be very useful. The three lists are at:
    The second is very long.
  11. Jun 18th 2013, 15:24



  12. Jun 20th 2013, 03:11
    >> 私たちは彼がこれ以上酒を飲むのを止(や)めさせなければならない。
    I have changed the index to やめる.

    >> 私は医者に酒を止(と)められている。
    Changed to とめる.

    >> あと、↓の文がなぜか「やめる」に入っていました。
    >> 彼らはその計画を断念した。

    That sentence (97961) was originally: "彼らはその計画を止めた。" In 2011 bunbuku changed it to "断念した" but the index has never been changed.

    I have now changed the index to link to 断念. There is a backlog of about 1,600 sentences where the indices are not completely correct.


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