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The children went to school already.
  • Wolf
  • Feb 19th 2010, 10:17
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  • Nero
  • Oct 4th 2011, 16:24
The children already went to school.
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The children already went to school.

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Oct 2nd 2011, 22:51
does this mean that they already departed for school (this morning) or that they already went to a school (the previous year), or is it ambiguous ?
Oct 3rd 2011, 20:40
Thank you very much Nero! That's really interesting for me, because I think there, you really have to be a native to know that, because from a french perspective, there is no logic at all in this tense difference and we actually differentiate otherwise:

« les enfants sont déjà allés à l'école » is actually fully ambiguous.
In order to lift this ambiguity in French,
to mean that the children already departed for school, we would actually say: « les enfants sont déjà partis à l'école »
and to mean that they already went to school in the past, we would say: « les enfants ont déjà fréquenté une/l' école »

So where you differentiate through the tense, we would by being more specific as to the verb.
Oct 3rd 2011, 20:43
the remaining question now is for esperanto: Which of the two signifies http://tatoeba.org/epo/sentences/show/1142842
Oct 4th 2011, 09:17
>Something that would capture the meaning of the German:
>Die Kinder haben schon eine Schule besucht.

Sure? Why? I suspect the esperanto sentence is ambiguous and thus...invalid...
Oct 4th 2011, 17:17

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