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The children went to school already.
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The children already went to school.

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The children already went to school.

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子供たちはもう学校へ行った。
子供[こども] たち は もう 学校[がっこう] へ 行っ[いっ] た 。

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  1. sacredceltic
    Oct 2nd 2011, 22:51
    does this mean that they already departed for school (this morning) or that they already went to a school (the previous year), or is it ambiguous ?
  2. sacredceltic
    Oct 3rd 2011, 20:40
    Thank you very much Nero! That's really interesting for me, because I think there, you really have to be a native to know that, because from a french perspective, there is no logic at all in this tense difference and we actually differentiate otherwise:

    « les enfants sont déjà allés à l'école » is actually fully ambiguous.
    In order to lift this ambiguity in French,
    to mean that the children already departed for school, we would actually say: « les enfants sont déjà partis à l'école »
    and to mean that they already went to school in the past, we would say: « les enfants ont déjà fréquenté une/l' école »

    So where you differentiate through the tense, we would by being more specific as to the verb.
  3. sacredceltic
    Oct 3rd 2011, 20:42
    http://tatoeba.org/epo/sentences/show/1147658
  4. sacredceltic
    Oct 3rd 2011, 20:43
    the remaining question now is for esperanto: Which of the two signifies http://tatoeba.org/epo/sentences/show/1142842
  5. sacredceltic
    Oct 4th 2011, 09:17
    >Something that would capture the meaning of the German:
    >Die Kinder haben schon eine Schule besucht.

    Sure? Why? I suspect the esperanto sentence is ambiguous and thus...invalid...
  6. sacredceltic
    Oct 4th 2011, 17:17
    I had it clarified http://tatoeba.org/epo/sentences/show/1142842

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