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Sentence #2926572

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Hakaku Hakaku December 12, 2013 December 12, 2013 at 9:20:33 PM UTC link Permalink

Is there any reason for adding sentences like these?

patgfisher patgfisher December 12, 2013 December 12, 2013 at 9:46:02 PM UTC link Permalink

+1 to both comments!!

alexmarcelo alexmarcelo December 12, 2013 December 12, 2013 at 10:01:50 PM UTC link Permalink

@corvard,
I can't delete this myself because I'll probably be accused of 'censorship', but you should think about how stupid this sounds and request deletion.

alexmarcelo alexmarcelo December 12, 2013 December 12, 2013 at 11:30:00 PM UTC link Permalink

Let me quote part of what TRANG wrote about 'what kind of content we want':

What do we delete?
- Racist comments and personal attacks, if they are really harmful and there is a general agreement that it should be removed.
http://blog.tatoeba.org/2010/08...f-content.html

I'd like to invite other users to express their opinions about this particular sentence so we can do the right thing.

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 12:23:26 AM UTC link Permalink

I absolutely agree that neither this nor any other offensive sentence concerning Mandela (or any other real person for that matter) should have a place at Tatoeba. I hope Corvard will see that no matter how he personally feels about certain people.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 12:35:59 AM UTC link Permalink

@corvard
Use your chance to brush away this before I'll do it.

Hans07 Hans07 December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 12:42:16 AM UTC link Permalink

forigu tion.

hayastan hayastan December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 1:03:51 AM UTC link Permalink

I agree with Lisa.

odexed odexed December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 5:54:24 AM UTC link Permalink

And what do you think about these sentences?
http://tatoeba.org/rus/sentences/show/2323523
http://tatoeba.org/rus/sentences/show/2340317

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 6:19:54 AM UTC link Permalink

http://tatoeba.org/rus/sentences/show/2323523
I think this is not offensiv because nobody specific is adressed.

http://tatoeba.org/deu/sentences/show/2340317
No specific nation is adressed, but I would like to see this sentence deleted or changed by the author nevertheless. In my eyes this is an, sorry, extremely silly sentence. I'm convinced it doesn't fit into Tatoeba. And I hope the author will understand this.

User55521 User55521 December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 6:56:52 AM UTC link Permalink

I personally think the more sentences we have, the better. Even if they are like this.

I suggest you should *not* delete this sentence. After all, you could just change Nelson Mandela to Betty, or Tom, or Mary, or anybody else.

sabretou sabretou December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 7:40:30 AM UTC link Permalink

+1 to Impersonator for changing it to Tom/Mary.

eirik174 eirik174 December 13, 2013 December 13, 2013 at 1:14:11 PM UTC link Permalink

I don't have a personal opinion in this case:
But Mandela remained on some US Terrorist Watch List until 2007.
Gandhi probably also has many old quotes about how horrible
he was written by British imperialists. But this isn't a historically attributed quote, and I agree it definitely serves no real purpose here.

Personally I'd change it to the name of a modern politician of any number of states I can think of. But that also would just serve to cause needless flame wars! If it has to be about Mandela, at least make it less immediately provocative. Or ya know, make your own blog if you want to express these things.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der December 14, 2013 December 14, 2013 at 12:06:32 AM UTC link Permalink

Deleted as overwhelmingly requested

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Mandela was the terrorist, Mandela was the murderer.

added by corvard, December 12, 2013

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linked by corvard, December 12, 2013

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unlinked by al_ex_an_der, December 14, 2013

Mandela was the terrorist, Mandela was the murderer.

deleted by al_ex_an_der, December 14, 2013