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- Nov 30th -0001, 00:00
Deaf and dumb people talk with signs.
- Nov 30th -0001, 00:00
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nickyeow - Dec 13th 2009, 04:59
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JimBreen - Mar 23rd 2010, 12:50
Deaf people talk using sign language.
sacredceltic - Aug 29th 2010, 15:34
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sysko - Sep 23rd 2011, 22:47
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sysko - Sep 23rd 2011, 22:47
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JimBreen - Sep 24th 2011, 11:17
Deaf-mute people talk using sign language.
Pfirsichbaeumchen - Apr 26th 2012, 16:46
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Pfirsichbaeumchen - Apr 26th 2012, 16:47
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teskmon - Oct 20th 2012, 21:51
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Deaf-mute people talk using sign language.

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  1. Mar 23rd 2010, 12:53
    @nickyeow I made the English match the Japanese better. Is the Chinese still OK?
  2. Mar 23rd 2010, 14:47
    In that case if you want nickyeow to be warned, you should post on the chinese sentence :) for the moment an email warining is send only if you're the owner of the main sentence or if you has posted a comment on it
  3. Mar 24th 2010, 00:51
    Yes, it's a problem with having comments related only to one of a set of linked sentences.
  4. Mar 24th 2010, 09:28
    I've edited the Chinese sentence. Thanks for notifying!
  5. Aug 29th 2010, 15:36
    Actually, it is dumb people who do. Not all deaf are dumb.
  6. Sep 24th 2011, 10:14
    The japanese sentence specifies it's deaf and mute people who talk with sign language.
    Just specify death make traductions kind of weird...
  7. Sep 24th 2011, 10:23
    Yes, over one year later, this sentence is still as stupid as it was : Most deaf people don't use a sign language. Only dumb people use one...
  8. Sep 24th 2011, 11:21
    I think I was hasty changing it last year. 聾唖 in Japanese mainly means "deaf-mute". As it says in 大辞林: "耳が聞こえず,話しことばが話せない状態。" I have now changed the English to "deaf-mute people", which is how 聾唖者 is usually translated.
  9. Sep 24th 2011, 11:27
    The vast majority of deaf people, became deaf in their old age, so they heard perfectly well during all their life and learnt to speak normally. Once deaf, the ability to speak remains, so most deaf people, never need a sign language and continue to speak normally, even louder, since they don't hear anymore what they say. So a sign language is utterly useless to them.

    Sign languages are necessary only to part of the people who are either dumb or deaf from birth or both.

    Being deaf from birth doesn't necessarily implies the use of sign languages, since most deaf people are taught to speak using their voice even though they can't hear it. And they usually lip-read.

    So, for deaf-born people, using a sign language is an option that not all of them retain.
    Subsequently only for dumb people (ie people unable to speak either from birth or later in life because of an accident, a cancer, etc...) is a sign language a necessity to express themselves.

    Non-deaf nor dumb people also learn sign languages to communicate with deaf people.

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