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Sentence #3383583

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Selena777 Selena777 July 16, 2014 July 16, 2014 at 11:48:16 AM UTC link Permalink

I wonder, if both my Russian translation match with the original sentence or not.

gleki gleki July 16, 2014 July 16, 2014 at 11:51:32 AM UTC link Permalink

They do. Although, they can be back translated as "You MAY do it".

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021 at 12:10:09 AM UTC link Permalink

Can we have "can" capitalized?

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021 at 12:17:39 AM UTC link Permalink

I know the point is for emphasis, but...I'm not sure if this fits in Tatoeba

CK CK May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021 at 12:29:40 AM UTC link Permalink

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Ты МОЖЕШЬ сделать это.
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Ты МОЖЕШЬ делать это.

Would both of these also match the following if the appropriate word in the Russian wasn't capitalized?

[#1391] You can do it. (brauliobezerra) *audio*



The danger of allowing this here is that we would get a lot of redundant sentences with only the emphasized word capitalized.

The DANGER of allowing this here is that we would get a lot of redundant sentences with only the emphasized word capitalized.

The danger of allowing this HERE is that we would get a lot of redundant sentences with only the emphasized word capitalized.

nonong nonong May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021 at 12:54:21 AM UTC link Permalink

Maybe, it's better to say “You indeed can do it.” The term <indeed> emphasizes like the Lojban term <ba'e>.

Objectivesea Objectivesea May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021 at 12:58:14 AM UTC link Permalink

Yes, this is an issue not really germane to Tatoeba. We've discussed the same point earlier, with sentence #2093415. In principle, a speaker could emphasize just about any word in the sentence, admittedly with different perceived meaning. Allowing suprasegmentals or non-standard capitalizations would create unnecessary chaos at Tatoeba with no compensating benefit. Occasional ambiguity is inevitable in any natural language, as well as in most planned languages, and we live with it.

If it is vital to convey a particular meaning, this can be done by adding another clause to the sentence, perhaps like this:

Although you doubt your ability, I'm confident you can do it.

CK CK May 17, 2021, edited May 17, 2021 May 17, 2021 at 1:10:07 AM UTC, edited May 17, 2021 at 1:10:38 AM UTC link Permalink

Perhaps one or both of the following would match [#620861] do ba'e ka'e co'e.

[#2546505] I'm sure you can do it. (CK) *audio*
[#6872849] I'm certain you can do that. (CK) *audio*

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez June 24, 2021 June 24, 2021 at 8:19:24 PM UTC link Permalink

Should something be done about this?

Objectivesea Objectivesea June 25, 2021 June 25, 2021 at 4:00:51 AM UTC link Permalink

@nonong's idea is, to my mind, a natural English sentence which emphasizes the word "can" without introducing unnatural and undesirable capitalization.

You can indeed do it.

@CK's idea works too; however, it creates a sentence more complex than its equivalents in other languages, since it would have both a main clause and a subordinate clause, even though the "that" is left unspoken:

I'm sure [that] you can do it.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #620861do ba'e ka'e co'e.

You CAN do it.

added by gleki, July 16, 2014

linked by gleki, July 16, 2014

linked by CK, July 19, 2015