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Sentence #438367

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 pliiganto pliiganto December 23, 2010 December 23, 2010 at 11:43:09 AM UTC link Permalink

bv. forprenu "tion".

dominiko dominiko December 23, 2010 December 23, 2010 at 1:04:13 PM UTC link Permalink

@pliiganto: kial forpreni "tion"? Estas laux mi tute en ordo.

pjer pjer December 23, 2010 December 23, 2010 at 1:18:19 PM UTC link Permalink

diri tion, kion ...= dire cela(cette chose), que ...
diri, kion ...= dire ce que ...= dire quoi ...
Fakte lau la aliaj lingvoj, estas pli bone forpreni "tion".

dominiko dominiko December 23, 2010 December 23, 2010 at 1:26:29 PM UTC link Permalink

@pjer: mi ne konsentas. Mi diris al li tion, kion fari = Mi diris a li, kion fari.

Vidu pri forlaso de ti-vorto en PMEG:

http://bertilow.com/pmeg/gramat...i-forlaso.html

La frazo estas en ordo. Ne indas sxangxi gxin.

pjer pjer December 23, 2010 December 23, 2010 at 2:03:14 PM UTC link Permalink

Mi neniel diris, ke via frazo estas erara, sed estas tre grava leĝo en Esperanto, t. e. sufiĉeco: Se necesas meti, aldoni vort(er)on, oni metas ĝin sed se sufiĉas sene, oni ne metu ĝin! Ĉi tie la du votoj : tio k kio estas en sama gramatikkazo, do ni povas forpreni "tion". Estus malfeliĉe, ke ni ne povu, dum la multaj aliaj lingvoj povas!
Vi proponis al mi vidi PMEG-n. Kvankam mi opiniis, ke mi ne bezonas, mi vizitis... Relegu PMEG klarigas TION, kion mi diris kaj rediras. (Ĉi tie, mi voleme lasas TION por jai!)

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #260352I told him what to do..

Mi diris al li tion, kion fari.

added by dominiko, July 25, 2010
➜ #260352I told him what to do.

linked by dominiko, July 25, 2010
➜ #612834Mi diris al li, kion li faru.

linked by martinod, October 24, 2014