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Sentence #4599624

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 kroko kroko October 13, 2015 October 13, 2015 at 12:41:46 AM UTC link Permalink

ona kin li moli --> ona li kin moli. [?]


 carlosalberto carlosalberto October 13, 2015 October 13, 2015 at 9:42:26 AM UTC link Permalink

"kin" emphasizes the word(s) before it

kroko kroko October 13, 2015 October 13, 2015 at 11:18:14 AM UTC link Permalink

Right! But there is no word before it! --> so it must be either "also", "even", or "too".
And "also died" or "died too" fits very well, doesn't it?

See: http://tokipona.net/tp/ClassicWordList.aspx

kroko kroko October 13, 2015 October 13, 2015 at 11:21:09 AM UTC link Permalink

Krome mi trovis tion: http://www.tokipona.info/Lecionoj/64

kroko kroko October 13, 2015 October 13, 2015 at 11:36:15 AM UTC link Permalink

Eble la ekzemplo estas malbona, ĉar nur "mi" estas uzita, do oni ne povas diri ĉu uzi la "kin" antaŭ aŭ malantaŭ la "li", se oni uzas "oni" anstataŭ "mi" aŭ "sina".

Do, fakte mi nun iomete dubas pri la ĝusta uzo de "kin". Eble ni demandu en la Tokiponaa forumo, ĉu?

http://forums.tokipona.org

carlosalberto carlosalberto October 13, 2015 October 13, 2015 at 1:20:07 PM UTC link Permalink

From Tatoeba corpus:

ni kin li lon. = Tio estas vera, fakte.
ona li lon kin. = Tio certe estas vero.
mi olin kin e sina. = I love you, too.
mi wile kin e ona! = Mi ankaŭ volas ĝin.
mi mute kin li kama! = Here we are!
meli kin li wile unpa. = Women want to have sex too.
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kroko kroko October 13, 2015 October 13, 2015 at 7:31:38 PM UTC link Permalink

Do, mi finfine traktas vian frazon kiel plej-verŝajne ĝusta.
Tamen mankas memfido ĉiam ĝuste uzi ĝin mem.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #4597440In the morning he too was found dead..

tenpo suno kama, la jan li lukin e ni: ona kin li moli.

added by carlosalberto, October 11, 2015
➜ #4597440In the morning he too was found dead.

linked by carlosalberto, October 11, 2015