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Sentence #678284

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PaulP PaulP May 28, 2015 May 28, 2015 at 6:06:00 PM UTC link Permalink

forfalu la vorteto "mem".

lipao lipao May 28, 2015 May 28, 2015 at 6:29:28 PM UTC link Permalink

Mi ne trovas tion necesa; aŭ, ĉu eblus “li memmortigis sin…”?

PaulP PaulP May 29, 2015 May 29, 2015 at 9:47:11 AM UTC link Permalink

La vorteto "sin" jam esprimas, ke temas pri la subjekto mem. Aldoni "mem" estas pleonasmo.

lipao lipao May 29, 2015 May 29, 2015 at 5:25:22 PM UTC link Permalink

Pleonasmo ja — tamen, miaopinie, ne forigenda. “Mortigis sin” similas al simpla “mortiĝis”; en multaj lingvoj (kaj mi kredas ke do ankaŭ en Esperanto) tia konstruo povas uziĝi eĉ por okazoj, kie ne la subjekto mem estas la mortiginto — ekzemple: “Li mortigis sin dum paraŝuta descendo”. Kontraŭe “mortigis sin mem” klare montras, ke temis pri suicido.

Kvankam — jes, la tuta frazo bonus ankaŭ sen tiu vorteto.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #288519He killed himself at the age of thirty..

Li mortigis sin mem en la aĝo de 30.

added by Alois, December 21, 2010

linked by Alois, December 21, 2010

linked by PaulP, May 28, 2015

linked by PaulP, May 28, 2015

Li mortigis sin en la aĝo de tridek.

edited by PaulP, June 13, 2015