Je pense que c'est d'ailleurs l'objet de l'opération dans certains cas.
Ça s'apparente à une forme de censure...
Orphan sentences in
English: 40500 results!
French: 8131 results!
Spanish: 19 results!
@needs native check
English: 116 pages!
French: 30 pages!
Spanish: 8 pages!
Je pense que Tatoeba est plus qu'un site de traduction. C'est une communauté, et il y a des milliers de fautes qui doivent être corrigées... Il faut agir !
Elles sont le cancer de Tatoeba.
En moyenne, j'en adopte moins de 2% en français, et la raison pour laquelle je n'adopte pas les autres 98% est qu'elles sont mauvaises...
Travaillons ! +100
Right now, I went through every unadopted sentence in Spanish, and there's nothing I could adopt from there. If another non-Chilean user might check them too, I'd agree to have them deleted.
That's why I would only agree when at least two or three native users verify there's nothing to do with ANY of them
There's no rule on having to adopt only sentences in one's native language, and de-adopting sentences one wrote out of uncertainty, as we have just seen, causes unnecessary chaos in the project.
Orphan sentences create work for the whole project contributors, while adopted sentences only do that on the behalf of the adopter; there's no need to drop our responsibilities on the others, so we should each keep our own sentences and be ready to fix them if needed; by corrections, we learn.
The only possible reason I see to un-adopt one's sentence would be if (s)he wants to leave the project.
I totally agree.
Personally, I'd be grateful that a non-native user would unadopt his/her Spanish sentences,
that way, if a trustworthy user adopts them, you can rest assured they are good translations.
Personally, when I look at foreign sentences, I could naively trust every one of them, but I don't, I look for sentences owned by trustworthy speakers, and I believe they won't be misleading.
I know many users do this, but we need more.
If sentences are correctly tagged, there are no differences between "native" and "foreign" sentences.
It's time to establish goals...
Everyone should be able to write a sentence in any language he knows; not being native doesn't mean one is automatically wrong, and as far as one is ready to correct his own errors when someone more knowledgeable points them out, it's fine. Unadopted sentences are instead a mass of random attempts who weren't even tried at their best: they're bets made by someone who didn't want to risk nor gain anything from it.
In my opinion, we should work to adopt as much correct sentences as possible, then decide a date for a purge of all the unadopted sentences, and from then onward, do that regularily.
In the meantime we should tag our mother tongues' sentences as needed (thing that, among others, I would be glad to be doing myself whenever the admins have time to reply to my PM).
They won't adopt the sentences just because they're fine to their eye, so we shouldn't unadopt ours in the first place especially if the only point we expect in that would be seeking their approval by adoption (and again, this function is already provided by the @change and OK tags).