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corvard corvard May 14, 2012 May 14, 2012 at 11:46:36 AM UTC link Permalink

Okay, I spent some time as advanced contributor, and now I can be promoted.

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jakov jakov May 14, 2012 May 14, 2012 at 4:14:00 PM UTC link Permalink

I guess the same conditions like for getting an advanced contributor aplly: http://tatoeba.org/eng/faq#advanced-contributor

However, I remeber that they were voting on new advanced contributors in the IRC channel, but i'm not sure. I guess you'll have to contact Trang.

What is your motivation to become a corpus maintainer?

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sysko sysko May 15, 2012 May 15, 2012 at 5:29:20 AM UTC link Permalink

Actually sometimes ago we decided for transparency reason to make the promotion to the corpus maintainer grade a public process made here on the wall, so that other people can express their support or their reserve against a candidate.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 15, 2012 May 15, 2012 at 7:24:38 PM UTC link Permalink

Je suis totalement opposé à ce que Corvard soit Gestionnaire du Corpus pour les raisons suivantes :

1) il n'est pas particulièrement doué en langues.
2) Il traduit dans des langues qu'il ne maîtrise pas
3) il est très agressif et m'a gravement insulté à de nombreuses reprises sans raison (mais il est vrai que arcticmonkey fait ça aussi...)

sacredceltic sacredceltic May 15, 2012 May 15, 2012 at 7:37:25 PM UTC link Permalink

Et indiquer dans son profil qu'on est de l'Antarctique n'aide pas spécialement à établir une quelconque confiance...

marcelostockle marcelostockle May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 7:47:51 PM UTC link Permalink

personally, if possible, I'd request that his "Advanced Contributor" status be turned back to "Contributor",
since "advanced" is a status you'd normally give to trustworthy contributors.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 10:42:06 PM UTC link Permalink

My guess is Corvard is no more than 12 years old...

jakov jakov May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 11:11:38 PM UTC link Permalink

For now according to his behavior on the wall i back this request.

The initial demand for more power already seemed strange to me but i thought that it might have language reasons.

corvard corvard May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 10:03:43 PM UTC link Permalink

ШIs that some fanatics group. Haha. What did i do?

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Demetrius Demetrius May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 10:17:30 PM UTC link Permalink

You just behave like a schoolboy...

Biga Biga May 15, 2012 May 15, 2012 at 6:32:25 AM UTC link Permalink

I would personally object to granting Corvard corpus maintainer rights.
He has been advanced contributor for just about a month and I think it is quite a short term to pick up on it.
Furthermore I believe that higher possibilities require higher responsibility -- сorpus maintainer should be very punctual and careful person, and no less important is to be attentive to people. As I see it, Corvard sometimes is quite abrupt in his actions and words.
I honestly believe that he have good intentions requesting for promoting, but this time I would vote to leave his status as it is. I hope he won't have hard feelings about me after that.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der May 15, 2012 May 15, 2012 at 9:18:47 PM UTC link Permalink

Like you, corvard, I am an advanced contributor, and in my eyes there is a lot that can be done in this position. What I want to say by this is; it's good to know that you are ready to support the team of the corpus maintainers, but maybe there is no need to hurry. In a later moment of time you will probably have much more support, especially if in the mean time you continue to contribute so actively like you do now - thus becoming known by more people - and say a bit more about you motivation and the work you want to accomplish being an c.m. As far as I am concerned; today I still don't know you enough to recommend you, but I highly appreciate the work you are doing now by adding very many Russian sentences. In order to make Tatoeba really useful it is very important to increase the number of sentences in those languages which at the moment are not (yet) in "leading positions".

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 15, 2012 May 15, 2012 at 9:49:55 PM UTC link Permalink

>In order to make Tatoeba really useful it is very important to increase the number of sentences in those languages which at the moment are not (yet) in "leading positions".

as long as they accurately translate the sentences they are meant to translate...

zipangu zipangu May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 9:26:48 PM UTC link Permalink

I'm not particularly interested in who is right and who is wrong in this case, but I'm quite convinced that Tatoeba _sentences_ ARE NOT the place to wage such flame wars as here:

http://tatoeba.org/pol/sentences/show/1575954

It's nothing personal (it doesn't matter whom it concerns), but I consider such behavior UNACCEPTABLE.

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Demetrius Demetrius May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 9:50:24 PM UTC link Permalink

+1

Shishir Shishir May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 9:55:45 PM UTC link Permalink

I completely agree, specially in the case of a moderator or advanced user, someone who has earned the trust of the community. That's why I agree with Marcelo that he's not trustworthy, so he shouldn't be given special powers. Sorry corvard, it's nothing personal, it's just that I like this site and I want the best for it.

jakov jakov May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 11:09:19 PM UTC link Permalink

Was there any discussion on this sentence? I dont see any angmore. The sentence on its own is not insulting unless conected to someone.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 11:10:35 PM UTC link Permalink

regarde l'historique...

http://tatoeba.org/fre/sentences/show/1576577

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Biga Biga May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 11:27:39 PM UTC link Permalink

BTW, do we have an appropriate tag for that sort of sentences?

jakov jakov May 17, 2012 May 17, 2012 at 7:56:23 AM UTC link Permalink

oh, i didnt see that. then of course It should be deleted (at least the history).

alexmarcelo alexmarcelo May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 10:51:46 PM UTC link Permalink

I'm deleting this sentence...
http://tatoeba.org/fre/sentences/show/1575109

Any objections?

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 11:01:49 PM UTC link Permalink

I think you should leave it as one more testimony of Corvard's hopelessness...

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corvard corvard May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 11:03:09 PM UTC link Permalink

I'm expecting your apologies.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic May 16, 2012 May 16, 2012 at 11:11:18 PM UTC link Permalink

this is rather your eulogy, dear child...

Demetrius Demetrius May 17, 2012 May 17, 2012 at 12:21:55 AM UTC link Permalink

I don't think this sentence should be deleted. I personally don't find it insulting or anything.

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alexmarcelo alexmarcelo May 17, 2012 May 17, 2012 at 5:17:51 AM UTC link Permalink

http://tatoeba.org/fre/sentences/show/1576910
What else should we expect?