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I've noticed that a decent quantity of the languages on Tatoeba have flags with poor rendering. This isn't a common issue with languages that have more sentences written in them (a notable exception being Spanish), but it increases rapidly with a decrease in sentences in a language (71 of the 100 smallest languages by sentence count have the issue, while only 39 of the 100 largest languages by sentence count have the issue). I was wondering if this is a known issue, and if it's considered an issue at all.
yeah, technically all flags should use an svg version. we should add them as long as we can get them.
I'd be happy to source some from Wikimedia.
Spanish - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w..._de_España.svg
Arabic - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...c_language.svg
(I don't see a more accurate-to-the-original version online, but I didn't look that hard.)
Serbian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w..._of_Serbia.svg
Slovak - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...f_Slovakia.svg
Yiddish - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...aleph_flag.svg
Korean - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...outh_Korea.svg
Belarusian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...of_Belarus.svg
Ido - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w..._Ido_(new).svg
Latvian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w..._of_Latvia.svg
Icelandic - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...of_Iceland.svg
Azerbaijani - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...Azerbaijan.svg
Breton - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...f_Brittany.svg
Uyghur - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...ayraq_flag.svg
Galician - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...of_Galicia.svg
Ossetian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...th_Ossetia.svg
Georgian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...of_Georgia.svg
Turkmen - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...rkmenistan.svg
Basque - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...ue_Country.svg
Estonian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...of_Estonia.svg
Croatian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...of_Croatia.svg
Old Prussian - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...evivalists.svg
(This is the same flag, but renamed.)
Kirundi - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...of_Burundi.svg
Udmurt - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w...f_Udmurtia.svg
Lingala - https://commons.wikimedia.org/w..._the_Congo.svg
I was just providing a list of flags that I could find as an SVG for languages that don't have flags in an SVG format.
In the past, every single language icon had poor rendering, that is to say all were an image of 30×20 pixels. We are working to redesign them to vectorized (SVG) equivalents, but not all the icons have been converted yet. (Despite the files are SVG, many of the SVG simply contain a raster image).
You contributions to the redesign effort are very welcome. Currently, 154 out of 429 language icons are vectorized.
The Spanish flag could be improved, but we do not want to include every single intricate detail of the flag, since it is mainly displayed as a tiny icon.
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Why do the current random function and search function only allows you either to specify one language or it'll return all languages? I personally think it would be really nice to define the random/search range as "All your profile languages"
You can do this in your profile:
https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...-translations#
However, notice the warning at the end: "Some members who use this setting forget they have have limited what is displayed and sometimes can't figure out why sentences seem to be missing."
I know this function, but it's different from what I am requesting. if I set some language there, when I go to a random sentence or search with some filters, while I don't specify one language, it is still very likely that I get a sentence(s) of a language that I have zero ideas about.
How to change the language name displayed in the Interface Language dialog box? The name of my language displayed there "Chinese (Taiwan)" (not yet on the main site) feels off. it's usually written as 中文 (台灣), not 中文 (臺灣正體).
The name is part of a site configuration setting, so only system administrators can change it.
When zh_TW was added to Tatoeba, because we were not sure what was the best name to use, to keep it safe we used the same name as what is used on https://zh.wikipedia.org/. You can check the discussion that happened at that time: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2672
You are welcome to share your expertise on this topic.
Here's more about the change request:
the language name is better to be shown as "中文 (台灣)", also, the language name for Chinese (China) is better to be "中文 (中国)" (or "中文 (中国大陆)" for geopolitical reasons). We should not use the current (大陆简体) and (臺灣正體) because it's solely a Wikipedia mechanism, not for interfaces in general. The most common way to show interface language options are the way I listed above. Android, iOS, Windows, etc all have the two variations of languages shown like that. I'm strongly recommend that we should change them.
there's also another solution completely avoiding geopolitical problems: rename Chinese (Taiwan) into Chinese (Traditional), i.e. 中文 (繁體); and rename Chinese (China) into Chinese (Simplified), i.e. 中文 (简体). I recommend this more.
I finished translating Tatoeba Website into Traditional Chinese. Hope it could be applied to this site as soon as possible!
https://app.transifex.com/tatoe...rojects/zh_TW/
Awesome, thank you very much! I really appreciate your translation effort, and all your contributions in general by the way. I will apply the Chinese translation to tatoeba.org this week.
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