menu
Tatoeba
language
Register Log in
language English
menu
Tatoeba

chevron_right Register

chevron_right Log in

Browse

chevron_right Show random sentence

chevron_right Browse by language

chevron_right Browse by list

chevron_right Browse by tag

chevron_right Browse audio

Community

chevron_right Wall

chevron_right List of all members

chevron_right Languages of members

chevron_right Native speakers

search
clear
swap_horiz
search

Sentence #178562

info_outline Metadata
warning
Your sentence was not added because the following already exists.
Sentence #{{vm.sentence.id}} — belongs to {{vm.sentence.user.username}} Sentence #{{vm.sentence.id}}
{{vm.sentence.furigana.info_message}} {{vm.sentence.text}}
star This sentence belongs to a native speaker.
warning This sentence is not reliable.
content_copy Copy sentence info Go to sentence page
subdirectory_arrow_right
warning
{{transcription.info_message}}
Translations
Unlink this translation link Make into direct translation chevron_right
{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Existing sentence #{{::translation.id}} has been added as a translation.
edit Edit this translation
warning This sentence is not reliable.
content_copy Copy sentence info Go to sentence page
subdirectory_arrow_right
warning
{{transcription.info_message}}
Translations of translations
Unlink this translation link Make into direct translation chevron_right
{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Existing sentence #{{::translation.id}} has been added as a translation.
edit Edit this translation
warning This sentence is not reliable.
content_copy Copy sentence info Go to sentence page
subdirectory_arrow_right
warning
{{transcription.info_message}}
{{vm.expandableIcon}} {{vm.sentence.expandLabel}} Fewer translations

Comments

RobinS RobinS November 7, 2022 November 7, 2022 at 1:32:55 AM UTC link Permalink

I suggest changing 旨く to うまく. It's rarely written with kanji.

RobinS RobinS February 18, 2023 February 18, 2023 at 2:29:05 PM UTC link Permalink

@small_snow Could you take a look at this please?

small_snow small_snow February 18, 2023, edited February 18, 2023 February 18, 2023 at 6:04:01 PM UTC, edited February 18, 2023 at 6:22:20 PM UTC link Permalink

>I suggest changing 旨く to うまく. It's rarely written with kanji.
おっしゃる通りです。私もこの場合は「うまい」と書きます。
そして、ご存じのように常用漢字ではないだけで、間違いでもなさそうです。
https://eigobu.jp/magazine/umai-2
https://nihon-go.jp/post-1178/

なので、このままにしています。:)

<<補足>>
こちらの文は、画面右上のタグにTanaka Corpusと書かれていてるので、JimBreen氏が独自のプロジェクトでも使われていらっしゃることがわかります。そのため、常用漢字ではないからという理由だけで変更するのは、ちょっと心が咎める感じです。逆にレアなケースとしてこのままにしておいてもいいのかなと思ったりもします。もし、どうしても気になるようでしたら、JimBreen氏にお声掛けされるといいと思います。
JimBreen: https://tatoeba.org/ja/user/profile/JimBreen
Guidelines for Editing Japanese Sentences in Tatoeba:
https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...ow/tanakaedits

RobinS RobinS February 18, 2023, edited February 19, 2023 February 18, 2023 at 7:55:13 PM UTC, edited February 19, 2023 at 12:49:13 AM UTC link Permalink

Thank you for your reply, small_snowさん.

I perhaps should have mentioned in my original comment what prompted me to make this suggestion. I was adjusting the JMdict indices on this sentence when I noticed that 行く旨く was tagged (in JMdict) as a "rare kanji form". I'm not opposed to the use of non-jōyō kanji in Tanaka sentences but I thought it might be better to to use kana in this instance given the relative rarity of 旨い.

@JimBreen, how do you feel about this? I see that there are 26 Tanaka sentences that contain 旨く行く. None of the major JE dictionaries use 旨い/旨く in their example sentences.

small_snow small_snow February 19, 2023, edited February 19, 2023 February 19, 2023 at 12:37:06 AM UTC, edited February 19, 2023 at 12:38:19 AM UTC link Permalink

@RobinSさん
説明をありがとうございます。そうだったんですね。
JimBreen氏のお返事を待つことにしましょう。:)
https://tatoeba.org/ja/sentence...roved=no&user=

JimBreen JimBreen February 19, 2023 February 19, 2023 at 12:48:20 AM UTC link Permalink

I see there are about 180 sentences using various forms of 旨く行く. Most them use only kana. Given that the 旨く form is relatively rare, 26 is probably a bit high. I think many of the sentences came from textbooks which can be a bit old-fashioned.

On balance I think it would be best if most of the 旨く versions were converted to use kana.

small_snow small_snow February 19, 2023, edited February 19, 2023 February 19, 2023 at 8:29:56 PM UTC, edited February 19, 2023 at 9:21:09 PM UTC link Permalink

@JimBreen
では、現在アドプトされているもの以外は、適宜に変更させていただきます。

アドプトされているもの (4個):
https://tatoeba.org/ja/sentence...roved=no&user=

アドプトされていないもの (22個):
https://tatoeba.org/ja/sentence...roved=no&user=
※既に幾つか変更したので、個数が変わっています。

ありがとうございました。

JimBreen JimBreen February 20, 2023 February 20, 2023 at 6:17:28 AM UTC link Permalink

Go ahead. I guess the 4 adopted ones can stay.

Metadata

close

Sentence text

License: CC BY 2.0 FR

Logs

We cannot determine yet whether this sentence was initially derived from translation or not.

君のおかげで仕事は旨く行きました。

added by an unknown member, date unknown

linked by an unknown member, date unknown

あなたのおかげで仕事がうまく行きました。

edited by small_snow, February 19, 2023