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Sentence #3962500

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carlosalberto carlosalberto March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 1:17:13 PM UTC link Permalink

permesintu ==> permesintus (?)

Vortarulo Vortarulo March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 1:27:36 PM UTC link Permalink

Nu, temas ja pri jusivo en la pasinteco:
"Oni ne estu permesinta..." = "Oni ne permesintu..."

carlosalberto carlosalberto March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 2:13:01 PM UTC link Permalink

Eble vi pravas.

carlosalberto carlosalberto March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 2:56:20 PM UTC link Permalink

Sed mi ne komprenas: Kion signifas "jusivo"?

Vortarulo Vortarulo March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 3:14:27 PM UTC link Permalink

Jusivo estas la gramatika esprimo por tia uzo de la u-formo. Imperativo estas, se vi ordonas ion al iu, hortativo estas por 1-a persono (Ni ekiru!), subjunktivo estas por subfrazoj (Mi deziras, ke ŝi alvoku min.) kaj finfine, jusivo estas, se oni esperas aŭ volas, ke iu 3-a persono faru ion (Li venu tuj!).
La u-formo havas multajn (tamen rilatajn) uzojn.

carlosalberto carlosalberto March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 4:04:13 PM UTC link Permalink

Dankegon!

carlosalberto carlosalberto March 16, 2015, edited March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 4:21:55 PM UTC, edited March 16, 2015 at 4:29:19 PM UTC link Permalink

Em português:

Jussivo — Tempo verbal que exprime ordem categórica, substituindo com mais energia o imperativo: futuro jussivo (p. ex.: Honrarás pai e mãe). O futuro jussivo é comum no enunciado de leis, contratos e ordens judiciais.

En Esperanto (pardonu la malriĉan tradukon):

Jusivo - verba tempo esprimanta kategoria ordo, kiu anstataŭas pli energie la imperativon: estonteco jusiva (ekz.: Honoru patron kaj patrinon). La jusiva estonteco estas komuna en la vortumado de leĝoj, kontraktoj kaj kortegaj ordoj.

carlosalberto carlosalberto March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 4:45:04 PM UTC link Permalink

+1

Em português, modo jussivo = modo imperativo.

O termo "jussivo" vem do latim "jussus, a, um" — 'que recebeu ordem'

do verbo latino "jubeo, es, jussi, jussum, jubere" — 'dar ordem, mandar'.

Vortarulo Vortarulo March 16, 2015 March 16, 2015 at 5:21:01 PM UTC link Permalink

Jes, ĝuste, kutime sufiĉas simple nomi ĝin "imperativo".

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #3067050Tom should never have been allowed to do that..

Oni neniam permesintu al Tom fari tion.

added by Vortarulo, March 15, 2015