Ĉi tie mi estas malcerta. Ne estas klare, ĉu la persono atendata efektive venis aŭ ne.

-> mi mute li awen tawa kama sina.
-> mi mute li awen lon weka sina.



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Sed, ŝajnas al mi, ke "awen tawa kama" ne signifas, ke la persono nepre venos. (?)


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Mi ne certas, ĉu mi komprenas. Ĉu vi celas, ke "tawa" povas esprimi ian komplezon, kiun oni faras por iu? Kiel: "mi awen (tawa kama pi jan pona sina) tawa sina" - "mi atendas (vian amikon) por vi"?


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Not really. I think the main (most frequent) meaning of "tawa" is "going to, toward; for".
As in this example: I was waiting for you: mi awen tawa kama sina.


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Interesting. In my mind, "tawa" has these meanings/usages:
- movement, indicating the target (mi tawa tomo.)
- transfer, indicating the beneficiary (mi pana e lipu tawa sina.)
- perspective (tawa mi la ni li pona.)

In "I'm waiting for you", "for" seems to have yet another meaning. Do you agree? If yes, what kind of meaning would that be, and can you think of other examples?


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I agree. In "I cried for you", for example, the meaning seems to me "I cried because of you" [Eu chorei por você / Chorei por sua causa]. (?)


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That's true. And some (over-)use "tan" for "to wait for", too! Probably because, if I'm waiting for someone, I'm sort-of waiting because of that person. But then, how to say "I'm waiting for her because of you"?


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tan sina la mi awen tawa kama ona. [?]


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That's what I'd say now, too. :)


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So, this sentence is correct without any tag. :)


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Great.


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mi awen tawa kama sina.
Wir warten auf dein Kommen.

Ich kann das verstehen, aber besser finde ich:
(tenpo pini la) mi (mute li) awen tan ni: sina kama.
Eine Aussage pro Satz ist keine Toki Pona Regel, aber leicht.

"Wir warten auf dein Kommen." ist nicht die wörtliche Übersetzung von "mi awen tawa kama sina", die ich meinte, sondern "wir warten bis zu deinem Kommen", "wir warten bis du kommst".

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