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Sentence #690412

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PaulP PaulP November 30, 2015 November 30, 2015 at 8:22:18 PM UTC link Permalink

> Vi povas venigi kiun ajn, kiu volas veni.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der December 15, 2015 December 15, 2015 at 7:48:50 AM UTC link Permalink

Post du semajnoj sen reago mi korektis la frazon.

Horus Horus December 15, 2015 December 15, 2015 at 8:00:04 AM UTC link Permalink

Duplicates of this sentence have been deleted:
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GrizaLeono GrizaLeono January 16, 2016 January 16, 2016 at 9:03:44 PM UTC link Permalink

... kiun ajn? ... iu ajn?

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der January 16, 2016, edited January 16, 2016 January 16, 2016 at 9:36:59 PM UTC, edited January 16, 2016 at 9:38:45 PM UTC link Permalink

"ĉiun ajn, kiu" ŝajnas trafa (simila frazo: #2380633)
aŭ ĉu vi preferas la pli simplan esprimon "ĉiun, kiu"?

mramosch mramosch May 27, 2020 May 27, 2020 at 9:57:10 AM UTC link Permalink

In German we need to have a word in the main phrase that the Relative Pronoun can refer to. This can be done here in two ways

-> You may bring whoever wants to come.

• Du kannst JEDEN mitbringen, DER kommen möchte.
• Du kannst ALLE mitbringen, DIE kommen möchten

essentially either in a singular-ish way

You may bring ANY PERSON who wants to come. (-> wants)

or in a plural-ish style

• You may bring ALL PERSONS who want to come. (-> want)

As one can see, the correct English translation (already being singular-ish) covers both German translation perfectly and would sound odd if expressed differently.

Is there a difference to be made in Esperanto or can we safely use this version of Esperanto for both german translations?


GrizaLeono GrizaLeono May 27, 2020 May 27, 2020 at 6:59:46 PM UTC link Permalink

En Esperanto estas diferenco inter "Vi povas kunvenigi ĉiun ajn, kiu volas veni." kaj "Vi povas kunvenigi ĉiujn ajn, kiuj volas veni."
La unua frazo esprimas, ke la invitantoj atendas nur unu plian personon, la dua frazo esprimas, ke pluraj personoj estas bonvenaj.

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #324986You may bring whoever wants to come..

Vi povas venigi kiu ajn volas veni.

added by Alois, December 29, 2010

linked by Alois, December 29, 2010

linked by PaulP, November 30, 2015

Vi povas kunvenigi kiun ajn, kiu volas veni.

edited by al_ex_an_der, December 15, 2015

Vi povas kunvenigi iun ajn, kiu volas veni.

edited by al_ex_an_der, January 16, 2016

Vi povas kunvenigi ĉiun ajn, kiu volas veni.

edited by al_ex_an_der, January 16, 2016

linked by mramosch, May 27, 2020