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sundown sundown August 3, 2021 August 3, 2021 at 7:33:59 AM UTC link Permalink

I'd like to suggest a feature, if it doesn't already exist: to show in search results whether a sentence has been left a comment or has been tagged.

I often translate sentences as I find them on the search results page rather than visiting each individual sentence page. As far as I know, there's no indication on the search results page that a sentence has been commented on or tagged.

Comments and tags often give hints about how to translate a sentence, and indicate sources when it contains a quotation. It would be good not to miss out on this information before attempting (or not) a translation.

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Guybrush88 Guybrush88 August 3, 2021, edited August 3, 2021 August 3, 2021 at 10:07:42 AM UTC, edited August 3, 2021 at 10:25:57 AM UTC link Permalink

right now, you can already filter the sentences according to a given tag (but you can't exclude sentences containing that tag yet).

Concerning comments, I opened a ticket for it: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2822

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sundown sundown August 3, 2021, edited August 3, 2021 August 3, 2021 at 9:52:12 PM UTC, edited August 3, 2021 at 9:54:13 PM UTC link Permalink

Thanks for doing that, Guybrush88. :)

Just to be clear as far as tags go: I'd just like to be able to see from the search results page that a sentence has been tagged at all – regardless of the tag. Then I'd know whether I should go to the trouble of visiting the page of a sentence first, instead of simply adding a translation to it from the search results page. The same goes for comments – any comment at all, regardless of number.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez August 1, 2021 August 1, 2021 at 4:22:40 PM UTC link Permalink

Is there a way to bulk add sentences to a list, or do we have to do it one by one?

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Yorwba Yorwba August 1, 2021 August 1, 2021 at 8:58:58 PM UTC link Permalink

How would you select which bulk of sentences to add?

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez August 1, 2021, edited August 1, 2021 August 1, 2021 at 9:09:05 PM UTC, edited August 1, 2021 at 9:11:05 PM UTC link Permalink

I already have ones in mind. Namely, all Spanish sentences I own.

In terms of how I'd tell a program I want those, I don't know.

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 5:31:05 AM UTC link Permalink

Also I don't mean just accessing them, but adding them all to a list at once, instead of one by one, which I'd rather not do.

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Yorwba Yorwba August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 7:54:50 PM UTC link Permalink

We could add a "turn this into a list" button to this page: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence.../DJ_Saidez/spa

Alternatively, we could add whatever functionality lists have, but which that page lacks. What do you intend to do once you have the sentences in a list?

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez August 3, 2021 August 3, 2021 at 1:56:26 AM UTC link Permalink

I messaged you about this.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 6:04:23 PM UTC link Permalink

I was looking at blay_paul's favorites, some of which were deleted, and the option to delete them from his favorites appears for me. Is that supposed to happen?
https://tatoeba.org/es/favorites/of_user/blay_paul

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Selena777 Selena777 August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 6:11:41 PM UTC link Permalink

It's only blay_paul who is able to delete anything from his own favourites, not anyone else.

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez August 2, 2021, edited August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 6:15:53 PM UTC, edited August 2, 2021 at 6:16:24 PM UTC link Permalink

You're right, it's just a display issue

Before I tried anything:
https://ibb.co/4djqqZn
After I pressed "delete" on #15789 (It says "Favorite successfully deleted"):
https://ibb.co/YkgQfd2
After I refreshed (it shows back up):
https://ibb.co/5Gbf1JK

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Yorwba Yorwba August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 8:22:49 PM UTC link Permalink

Congratulations! You found two bugs at once. The first bug is that you're seeing the option to delete. The second bug is that it claims to be successful even though it actually failed.

Recorded on GitHub here: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2821

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 10:48:50 PM UTC link Permalink

Do I get a prize? 😊 (jk)

Selena777 Selena777 August 2, 2021 August 2, 2021 at 6:26:50 PM UTC link Permalink

Indeed. Seems like a bug.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez July 28, 2021, edited July 28, 2021 July 28, 2021 at 1:42:08 AM UTC, edited July 28, 2021 at 1:43:24 AM UTC link Permalink

It's been mentioned before (ie. by morbrorper), but I'd really like for there to be a way to see sentences of ours that others have left reviews (OK marks) on.
For example, Shishir has been kind enough so as to go through my Spanish sentences and add a checkmark to those she believes are natural (for which I thank you several times over), and I consider that at that point it becomes comparable to one written by a native speaker, and so for example I'd like to have a link to those in my bio.

While I'm on this topic, I'd like it so that if an OK mark is given by a native speaker of a certain language to a sentence in that language owned by a non-native, that that sentence be considered as one owned by native speakers and show up in searches accordingly. But this is probably much more complex than my first-mentioned.

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TRANG TRANG July 31, 2021 July 31, 2021 at 6:12:29 PM UTC link Permalink

> It's been mentioned before (ie. by morbrorper), but I'd really like for there to
> be a way to see sentences of ours that others have left reviews (OK marks) on.

The use case you're describing here is actually a bit different from morbrorper ( https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2585 ).

In the case of morbrorper, it seems that his need was to be able to find easily his "bad" sentences and fix them.

In your case, it seems you want a way to showcase that you are able to contribute native-like Spanish sentences even though Spanish is not your main language. Is that a correct interpretation?

> While I'm on this topic, I'd like it so that if an OK mark is given by a native
> speaker of a certain language to a sentence in that language owned by a
> non-native, that that sentence be considered as one owned by native
> speakers and show up in searches accordingly.

I created a ticket on GitHub for your suggestion: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2819

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez July 31, 2021, edited July 31, 2021 July 31, 2021 at 6:37:26 PM UTC, edited July 31, 2021 at 6:37:40 PM UTC link Permalink

>In the case of morbrorper, it seems that his need was to be able to find easily his >"bad" sentences and fix them.

>In your case, it seems you want a way to showcase that you are able to contribute >native-like Spanish sentences even though Spanish is not your main language. Is that >a correct interpretation?

I want it for both those reasons, since I still obviously want to fix any mistakes I make.

>I created a ticket on GitHub for your suggestion: >https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/2819
Thanks :D

johannessleon johannessleon July 30, 2021 July 30, 2021 at 10:29:31 PM UTC link Permalink

A big greeting from Venezuela to all colleagues from around the world

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Amastan Amastan July 31, 2021 July 31, 2021 at 8:13:32 AM UTC link Permalink

Hola, bienvenido y saludos desde Argelia :-)

Shishir Shishir July 31, 2021 July 31, 2021 at 9:30:36 AM UTC link Permalink

hola, bienvenido :)

lbdx lbdx July 31, 2021 July 31, 2021 at 7:30:08 AM UTC link Permalink

** Tatominer **

Thanks to Seael, Yorwba, Polgar1, AlanF_US, cojiluc, Micsmithel, ddnktr, GrizaLeono, Shishir, maaster, shekitten, Johannes_S, johannessleon, iiujik, CK, martinod, aldar and NizzanCohen for their 155 contributions that helped move the project forward this week.

Check out the most searched words that lack sentences or translations in your language at https://tatominer.netlify.app.

johannessleon johannessleon July 29, 2021 July 29, 2021 at 9:49:59 PM UTC link Permalink

Hi, I'm new to this group, I'm from Venezuela, who welcomes me?

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez July 29, 2021, edited July 29, 2021 July 29, 2021 at 9:58:06 PM UTC, edited July 29, 2021 at 9:58:46 PM UTC link Permalink

Bienvenido :D
Soy de los EE.UU. pero nací en México

It looks like you know what you're doing, which is impressive for a newcomer!
Si tienes alguna duda o pregunta, let me know, or you can ask one of our amazing admins

Some of them:
Shishir: https://tatoeba.org/en/user/profile/Shishir
AlanF_US: https://tatoeba.org/en/user/profile/AlanF_US
Pfirsichbaeumchen: https://tatoeba.org/es/user/pro...rsichbaeumchen
CK: https://tatoeba.org/en/user/profile/CK

small_snow small_snow July 29, 2021 July 29, 2021 at 10:53:30 PM UTC link Permalink

Welcome to Tatoeba! :)

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johannessleon johannessleon July 29, 2021 July 29, 2021 at 11:00:20 PM UTC link Permalink

Thank you so much! Let's keep in touch!

johannessleon johannessleon July 29, 2021 July 29, 2021 at 11:01:10 PM UTC link Permalink

Thank you a lot.

GlossaMatik GlossaMatik July 26, 2021 July 26, 2021 at 1:03:30 PM UTC link Permalink

关于使用谐音书写:
我在书写吴语的时候碰到了这个问题,即每个人写的谐音可能是不一样的。在一种地区语言或方言没有正字法,或正字法没有被普及时,用不同的谐音字书写是否被允许?
我想听听大家的意见和看法。

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Yorwba Yorwba July 26, 2021 July 26, 2021 at 8:40:59 PM UTC link Permalink

Tatoeba上很多语言,即便有正字法,也不一定只有一种正字法,同样会有不同的人用不同的方式来写同一个词的现象。这是被允许的。

我个人偏喜欢音义一致的写法。比如说,用“里向”来表达“里面”对我来说很好理解,因为“面向”本来是关联的词。(“里向”很可能是“里”+“向”的合成词吧?)当然,这主要是因为我完全不知道是什么发音,所以只能用词典和猜测来推理一个词的意思。

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GlossaMatik GlossaMatik July 27, 2021, edited July 27, 2021 July 27, 2021 at 12:27:49 AM UTC, edited July 27, 2021 at 12:42:38 AM UTC link Permalink

谢谢Yorwba。语言的正字法的确不止一种,其他的谐音写法也不能被认为是错误。我会尽可能优先选用音义一致的写法,
比如说上海话中的“这”可以写成“æ ¼”或者“搿”,两种写法都会在上海话句子和教材中出现,不过后者可能更常用。

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sadhen sadhen July 28, 2021 July 28, 2021 at 12:28:12 PM UTC link Permalink

我没有看过什么上海话的教程,原来“这”是“搿”。又学会了一个字。谢谢!

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GlossaMatik GlossaMatik July 28, 2021 July 28, 2021 at 1:14:11 PM UTC link Permalink

不用谢!

terrywallwork terrywallwork July 26, 2021 July 26, 2021 at 11:15:33 AM UTC link Permalink

I am new to Tatoeba. I have read the Faq but I have a question about one of the interface icons.

On some Japanese sentence translations there is a red exclamation mark triangle. What is the meaning of this, and what is it for?

See google photo screenshot example :

https://photos.app.goo.gl/RgC7zH3rXszUEJA57

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Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen July 26, 2021 July 26, 2021 at 12:48:57 PM UTC link Permalink

It means that the reading aid (called 'furigana' in Japanese) has not been verified yet and could contain errors. Welcome to Tatoeba! 🙂

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terrywallwork terrywallwork July 28, 2021 July 28, 2021 at 10:29:34 AM UTC link Permalink

Thanks for letting me know :)

mraz mraz July 26, 2021 July 26, 2021 at 5:59:00 PM UTC link Permalink

Boldog születésnapot eszperantó!

1887. július 26-án jelent meg az eszperantó első tankönyve, így a mai napot tekintjük az "eszperantó nemzetközi nyelv" születésnapjának.

Sok örömet a nyelv minden ismerőjének és használójának!

Vivu la 26-a de Julio!

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mraz mraz July 27, 2021 July 27, 2021 at 6:37:40 AM UTC link Permalink

Vivu la 26-a de Julio!