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Small(?) request.
Could we have a link to the sentence annotation page from the sentence page that opens it with the sentence ID pre-selected?
A lot of the time this is what I do ...
1) Find a sentence in WWWJDIC.
2) Use the 'edit' link to bring up that sentence in Tatoeba.
3) Copy the sentence number to the clipboard.
4) Open the sentence annotation page.
5) Paste the sentence number to the annotation page.
6) Click the OK button and show that sentence's index data.
Steps 3 to 6 could be replaced by "3) Click sentence annotation link on sentence page."
If you look at the link format, you'll see that it is as follow:
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence.../[sentence_id]
So you can simply ask Jim to add another link in WWWJDIC, which uses this pattern. Then you'd only have:
1) Find a sentence in WWWJDIC.
2) Click on the 'annotation' link.
:)
Good point. I'll have to suggest that.
I noticed that the "What's new" page changed a bit. I think it should simply link to the blog/twitter account so that we can know what's new. Right now, it just displays a sort of feature list. That might be better at home in a page called "About Tatoeba" or "Features" or even "Help".
I agree. I also liked the old version better.
One point against farming out more to the blog - the blog is only in English and Tatoeba's interface supports (to some extent) eight+ languages.
Actually it should display the latest tweets... But apprently it's broken. Until we fix it, you can simply look at the Twitter page :)
Ist es möglich Kommentare zu beantworten bzw. zu kommentieren?
Nein. Man kann nur Kommentare schreiben (aber man kann in Kommentare andere Kommentare beantworten).
Entschuldigung, mein Deutsch ist furchtbar. ^^
To own a sentence - or to donate it (in a wiki)
The system of this site is that you own your sentence. So others look at your sentences, they put their comments and you have to modify your sentence or at least think over their remarks.
In fact I think I prefer the wiki system: You put your text, others change it - but you don't have to use your time and energy with what you wrote any more and to think it over.
As far as I'm concerned, I'm not so much into a wiki-like system. In my opinion, it would deprive new users from being properly educated and it's more difficult to manage when anyone can edit anything.
It's important that contributors receive feedback when they make mistakes, it teaches people to write properly. It's also important they are aware of the discussions or questions their sentences generate, and give their opinion (if they can). I personally want people to participate, communicate, share their knowledge and learn. Not just come, add sentences and increase the stats. The fact people "own" what they contribute gives them responsibility over it.
But you are not the first person who expressed they would feel more comfortable letting others edit their sentences. And well, you can read more on this issue in this thread:
http://tatoeba.org/fre/wall/sho...36#message_136
Anyway, I should mention that nothing forces you to think over people's comments on your sentences, you can technically ignore them. If you prefer a wiki system, then you can pretty much achieve this by disabling email notification (from your profile). And to help us, indicate in your profile description that you allow moderators to edit your sentences at your place, anytime. They currently have the rule to give sentences owners two weeks to correct their mistakes before stepping in.
Thank you for your explanation, Trang. Maybe you are right that it is a good idea to have 'owners' of sentences, if after two weeks the moderators can modify them. And if, as Scott said, I can give up the ownership (at first I did not understand 'let go'). Thank you for the nice site anyway!
You're welcome :)
And yes, you can give up the ownership of your sentences anytime. But it's a bit tedious in my opinion, because you have to operate one sentence at a time...
We don't have yet the possibility to massively un-adopt sentences. We also don't have yet the possibility to transfer ownership. But these are things that should be implemented in a more or less distant future.
If you relinquish ownership of your sentence after having created it, then anybody will be able to modify it.
I can no longer find the search that gave me the French sentences without English translations. I did see it once though, and it was great! Can the "search box" at the top, have an "advanced" check box that gives you options like that?
It's here:
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence...in/fra/eng/eng
I agree it should be easier to find, but note that it is still buggy. Pages other than the first show too many results.
@blay_paul, can you confirm it's still buggy, I thought I fix your problem last week
It's still buggy. :-P
From the homepage, click on French in the "Number of sentences". You will reach that page with the advanced search.
And yes it's still "hidden" because we introduced this feature not so long ago. We haven't had time yet to put a link to it from the menu ^^
"If you feel there are several possible translations, note that for a same sentence, you can add several translations in the same language."
Should be "Note that if you feel that there are several good translations in the same language for a single sentence, you can add more than one."
There's a bug on the profile details: I can't set a birth year before 1970. Is this place age-segregated ?
thanks for the bug report, it should be corrected now
I wondered why I could never set mine.
Hmmm. Now I can't amend my profile at all.
A sentence I added yesterday cannot yet be found. Is that normal ?
It is quite frustrating not to see the result of one's work...
Yes it's normal, and you can find your sentences from your profile. Click your user-name (top right of screen) and then the "View all my sentences"* link.
* Or equivalent in French if you are using the French interface.
But what's the point if "my" sentences remain mine and only mine, instead of becoming part of the lot ?
You mean we're all doing work in our corner. For what purpose ?
It's normal because the search index is not updated immediately. Your sentences will turn up just fine, when the search is working and after they have been indexed. So, try again tomorrow morning.
Is there an issue with the search right now? I've tried searching for very simple words, like "new", and I get no results.
I don't know about 'now' in particular, but I do know it's broken down before. If you're searching in Japanese or English I suggest you try the following link. You'll at least get access to around 150,000 of each ;-)
http://www.csse.monash.edu.au/~...wwwjdic.cgi?10
Is this a random breakdown that comes and goes, by any chance?
It's just a pain, cause I don't want to add repeats, but now I can't even check which ones would be repeats or not...
Don't know about random, but I don't think it breaks down that often. I think you just got unlucky.
Just me? You mean, it works for you?
Because the problem started last night for me. And it still exists...
I type "new" into the search box and get nothing...
I wouldn't know it was down yesterday - I never use the search facilities here. It was last reported as a problem about a week ago, IIRC.
due to some limitation, it sometimes goes down when reindexing :( it should be fine now
In the UI, in English, "Notify mistakes" should read "Report mistakes".
Thank you, I've modified it. It will take effect next time we update Tatoeba :)