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Sentence #1022036

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licitatrix licitatrix September 7, 2014 September 7, 2014 at 4:59:32 AM UTC link Permalink

I am unsure about this sentence. Does it mean "Why is this bird called". I would underständ a sentence like "Miksi tätä lintua kutsutaan punarintaksi?": Why is this bird called robin redbreast? Could you use "Kuinka (miten) tätä lintua kutsutaan?"?

Objectivesea Objectivesea September 7, 2014 September 7, 2014 at 5:15:19 AM UTC link Permalink

I don't speak any Finnish, but the English and German versions do definitely mean "How is this bird called?" — NOT "Why is this bird called?" And licitatrix's suggested addition of two words to allow the use of "Why?" is a good one. Since there is no such sentence at Tatoeba just yet, I'll add it in as a separate entry for licitatrix to translate into Finnish.

Objectivesea Objectivesea September 7, 2014 September 7, 2014 at 6:45:28 AM UTC link Permalink

Well, CK is right; "How is this bird called?" is indeed somewhat awkward English, and I did not advocate for such an English translation. I was just pointing out that the English and German versions are more similar in meaning to any Finnish adverb that means "how" than one that means "why?"

Silja Silja September 8, 2014 September 8, 2014 at 12:28:07 AM UTC link Permalink

"Does it mean "Why is this bird called"."

In theory yes and no, but in practice no. In addition of being adverb meaning "why", "miksi" is also translative case of pronoun "mikä" (what), so in this case the sentence would mean "What do you call this bird?". The sentence in sense "Why is this bird called" doesn't really mean anything, does it? :)

"Could you use "Kuinka (miten) tätä lintua kutsutaan?"?"
Nope, it means different thing also in Finnish, just like CK described.

licitatrix licitatrix September 8, 2014 September 8, 2014 at 1:14:52 AM UTC link Permalink

Argh, Finnish morphology!! Thank you for the answer, Silja. Well, I came close to the answer, when I proposed the sentence with the robin redbreast in the translative...

Silja Silja September 23, 2014 September 23, 2014 at 10:25:42 PM UTC link Permalink

>"Miksi tätä lintua kutsutaan punarintaksi?"

Melkein oikein! :) Viimeisen sanan taivutuksen pitäisi olla "punarinnaksi".

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #220493この鳥を何と呼びますか。.

Miksi tätä lintua kutsutaan?

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