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Sentence #2275093

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Tepan Tepan April 6, 2021 April 6, 2021 at 6:28:22 PM UTC link Permalink

Ĉi tie mi estas malcerta. Ne estas klare, ĉu la persono atendata efektive venis aŭ ne.

-> mi mute li awen tawa kama sina.
-> mi mute li awen lon weka sina.



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carlosalberto carlosalberto April 6, 2021 April 6, 2021 at 6:45:46 PM UTC link Permalink

Sed, ŝajnas al mi, ke "awen tawa kama" ne signifas, ke la persono nepre venos. (?)


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Tepan Tepan April 7, 2021 April 7, 2021 at 6:38:39 AM UTC link Permalink

Mi ne certas, ĉu mi komprenas. Ĉu vi celas, ke "tawa" povas esprimi ian komplezon, kiun oni faras por iu? Kiel: "mi awen (tawa kama pi jan pona sina) tawa sina" - "mi atendas (vian amikon) por vi"?


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carlosalberto carlosalberto April 7, 2021 April 7, 2021 at 10:32:40 AM UTC link Permalink

Not really. I think the main (most frequent) meaning of "tawa" is "going to, toward; for".
As in this example: I was waiting for you: mi awen tawa kama sina.


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Tepan Tepan April 8, 2021 April 8, 2021 at 4:58:33 PM UTC link Permalink

Interesting. In my mind, "tawa" has these meanings/usages:
- movement, indicating the target (mi tawa tomo.)
- transfer, indicating the beneficiary (mi pana e lipu tawa sina.)
- perspective (tawa mi la ni li pona.)

In "I'm waiting for you", "for" seems to have yet another meaning. Do you agree? If yes, what kind of meaning would that be, and can you think of other examples?


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carlosalberto carlosalberto April 8, 2021 April 8, 2021 at 5:27:11 PM UTC link Permalink

I agree. In "I cried for you", for example, the meaning seems to me "I cried because of you" [Eu chorei por você / Chorei por sua causa]. (?)


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Tepan Tepan April 10, 2021 April 10, 2021 at 2:06:23 PM UTC link Permalink

That's true. And some (over-)use "tan" for "to wait for", too! Probably because, if I'm waiting for someone, I'm sort-of waiting because of that person. But then, how to say "I'm waiting for her because of you"?


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carlosalberto carlosalberto April 10, 2021, edited April 10, 2021 April 10, 2021 at 2:19:19 PM UTC, edited April 10, 2021 at 2:19:46 PM UTC link Permalink

tan sina la mi awen tawa kama ona. [?]


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Tepan Tepan April 10, 2021 April 10, 2021 at 2:32:46 PM UTC link Permalink

That's what I'd say now, too. :)


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Horus Horus August 14, 2022 August 14, 2022 at 8:32:04 PM UTC link Permalink

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Tepan Tepan August 14, 2022 August 14, 2022 at 9:16:02 PM UTC link Permalink

So, this sentence is correct without any tag. :)


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carlosalberto carlosalberto August 14, 2022 August 14, 2022 at 10:15:35 PM UTC link Permalink

Great.


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Horus Horus August 16, 2022 August 16, 2022 at 6:02:03 PM UTC link Permalink

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Biderl Biderl August 19, 2022 August 19, 2022 at 12:02:11 PM UTC link Permalink

mi awen tawa kama sina.
Wir warten auf dein Kommen.

Ich kann das verstehen, aber besser finde ich:
(tenpo pini la) mi (mute li) awen tan ni: sina kama.
Eine Aussage pro Satz ist keine Toki Pona Regel, aber leicht.


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Tepan Tepan August 19, 2022 August 19, 2022 at 7:27:29 PM UTC link Permalink

"Wir warten auf dein Kommen." ist nicht die wörtliche Übersetzung von "mi awen tawa kama sina", die ich meinte, sondern "wir warten bis zu deinem Kommen", "wir warten bis du kommst".


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Tepan Tepan September 9, 2022 September 9, 2022 at 2:02:27 PM UTC link Permalink

-> mi awen tawa kama sina.

soweli_Elepanto soweli_Elepanto September 9, 2022 September 9, 2022 at 2:17:26 PM UTC link Permalink

pona.

Horus Horus September 9, 2022 September 9, 2022 at 2:32:04 PM UTC link Permalink

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #275296I'll wait for you..

mi awen e sina.

added by soweli_Elepanto, March 1, 2013

linked by soweli_Elepanto, March 1, 2013

linked by webmistusik, March 6, 2013

linked by Wezel, October 21, 2016

linked by Wezel, October 21, 2016

linked by list, November 9, 2016

linked by Batko, January 26, 2017

mi awen tawa sina.

edited by soweli_Elepanto, May 28, 2018

mi awen tawa kama sina.

edited by soweli_Elepanto, September 9, 2022

linked by Horus, September 9, 2022