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Sentence #3503822

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marafon marafon September 18, 2014, edited September 18, 2014 September 18, 2014 at 11:30:13 PM UTC, edited September 18, 2014 at 11:35:26 PM UTC link Permalink

остроумен / остроумна
остроумный / остроумная

alik_farber alik_farber September 19, 2014, edited September 19, 2014 September 19, 2014 at 10:02:05 AM UTC, edited September 19, 2014 at 10:06:13 AM UTC link Permalink

Ich denke, wir haben hier die wörtliche und falsche Übersetzung.
Wenn in Russland sagt man "Он остроумный", meint man "Er hat den Sinn für Humor".
Wenn in Deutschland sagt man " Er ist scharfsinnig", meint man "Er erfasst das Wesentliche sofort".
Deshalb schläge ich vor:
Он остроумный = Er ist witzig
Он проницательный = Er ist scharfsinnig.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der September 19, 2014, edited September 19, 2014 September 19, 2014 at 10:20:08 AM UTC, edited September 19, 2014 at 10:33:37 AM UTC link Permalink

Vielen Dank, Alik. Ganz einverstanden bin ich nicht. "Scharfsinnig" kann auch bedeuten "auf humorvolle Weise schlagfertig". Aber es ist eindeutiger, "проницательный" in der Übersetzung zu verwenden. Damit bin ich einverstanden. ☺

Lenin_1917 Lenin_1917 September 19, 2014 September 19, 2014 at 10:40:38 AM UTC link Permalink

тогда от сербского предложения надо отсоединить

Ooneykcall Ooneykcall September 19, 2014 September 19, 2014 at 12:15:26 PM UTC link Permalink

Кстати, в древнерусском "остроумный" значило именно "острого ума". Какова эволюция смысла - прямо один в один с английским wit.

marafon marafon September 19, 2014 September 19, 2014 at 1:49:17 PM UTC link Permalink

@alik_farber
Хотела вчера об этом написать, но в значении "остроумный" scharfsinnig тоже употребляется:
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/scharfsinnig
http://dic.academic.ru/dic.nsf/...9/scharfsinnig
Очевидно, в русском произошло сужение значения, а в немецком нет.

alik_farber alik_farber May 6, 2016 May 6, 2016 at 9:18:10 PM UTC link Permalink

Давайте уже снимем "NNC"

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #3503818Du bist scharfsinnig..

Ты остроумны.

added by al_ex_an_der, September 18, 2014

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Ты проницательный.

edited by al_ex_an_der, September 19, 2014

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