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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #384166Dat kan niet!.

Tio ne eblas.

added by koosscharroo, July 29, 2010

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Tio ne eblas.

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tio ne eblas

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Tio ne eblas.

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Ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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Tio ne eblas.

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Vortarulo Vortarulo February 7, 2011 February 7, 2011 at 7:40:28 PM UTC link Permalink

Skribi la komencon minuskle kaj forgesi la punkton je l' fino — jes, tio ne eblas. :)

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der November 14, 2011 November 14, 2011 at 11:15:57 AM UTC link Permalink

>*Ne eblas.<

Tiu frazo sen subjekto* ne estas gramatike kompleta frazo, sed elipso, kiun oni povas uzi en parolata lingvo, se antauiris konvena kunteksto. Tamen ankaŭ tiam temas fakte pri esprimo kontraŭ la gramatika regulo. Doni ĝin kiel modelan frazon, kaj eĉ sen kunteksto peras malĝustan bildon pri la lingvo.

*(cetere kontraste al la nederlanda kaj portugala tradukoj).

GrizaLeono GrizaLeono November 14, 2011 November 14, 2011 at 4:42:37 PM UTC link Permalink

Korektite.
Dankon.
Informe: en la nederlanda oni diras "Het regent", dum en Esperanto miascie oni ĉiam diras, ke pluvas, sed subjekto. Same "varmas", ktp.
En Fundamenta Krestomatio mi trovis "— Ĉu estas vere, Herman?"
Mi vidis plurajn sensubjektajn frazojn kun "estas vere" en http://tekstaro.com
Do supozeble mia frazo ne estis tiel kontraŭregula.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der November 14, 2011 November 14, 2011 at 5:26:17 PM UTC link Permalink

Vi pravas; sensubjektaj verboj ekzistas en Esperanto, sed tio estas limigita malgranda grupo.

Precipe temas pri verboj priskribantaj fenomenojn de vetero kaj klimato:

pluvi, neĝi, hajli, fulmi, tondri, tagiĝi, noktiĝi, vesperiĝi, vesperi.... krepuski, someras, aŭtuniĝi, vintriĝi... plus malmultaj aliaj

kaj ekster tiu temokampo : temi

Kaj fine: se esti peras fizikan impreson, ankaŭ ĝi rajtas aperi sen subjekto:

estas varme, estas agrable..

Pri ekzemploj el Fundamenta Krestomatio ni prefere ne parolu, Zamenhof kun lia karakteriza delikateco kaj toleremo lasis fakte la tekstojn de aliaj kontribuintoj preskaŭ sen ŝanĝoj (laŭ kredeblaj informoj de Waringhien), kvankam iom alia komento en la antaŭvortoj de F.K.

marcelostockle marcelostockle April 15, 2012 April 15, 2012 at 12:56:44 AM UTC link Permalink

no answer
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Horus Horus January 20, 2015 January 20, 2015 at 1:10:52 AM UTC link Permalink

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Horus Horus July 20, 2015 July 20, 2015 at 9:30:42 AM UTC link Permalink

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