Is this right at all?
Still don't like it
This reminds me of some interesting Star Trek episodes that were about questions like, "Does an artificial life form have the right to own something? Should one refer to them as 'it'? Should one acknowledge them as equals?"
Let's suggest deleting it then.
The one thing I don’t like about that idea is the bureaucratic process imposed on corpus maintainers/admins who will have one other thing to deal with now, and which might slow things down more
You’re an admin
CK wrote:
> there are a number that should more likely be gray-listed -- those sentences that seem wrong to a number of us, but might possibly be OK in some dialects.
Are you asking for users to be able to 'grey-list' sentences written in a dialect they don't personally speak?
A system to nominate sentences for deletion is already in place: the @delete tag. In 11 days, if no native should come forth and adopt the sentence, giving it a new hearth and home, let the grim task be mine to carry out then.
CK seemed to be suggesting something quite different.
And for that, I think the “@needs native check” tag fits that need as well, at least that’s how I use it
>> there are a number that should more likely be gray-listed -- those sentences that seem wrong to a number of us, but might possibly be OK in some dialects.
>Are you asking for users to be able to 'grey-list' sentences written in a dialect they don't personally speak?
I was suggesting that in cases where you are unsure, you shouldn't black-list something, but should gray-list it, similar to the ?-mark on the rating system, meaning that you are unsure.
Only downside of that, compared to NNC tag, is you can't search for ? marks, but you can search for NNC tag
> I was suggesting that in cases where you are unsure, you shouldn't black-list something, but should gray-list it, similar to the ?-mark on the rating system, meaning that you are unsure.
How would that be different from the current ? button, which is labelled "Mark as 'unsure'"?
I guess he means:
If black-list: it’s blocked from being translated so as to not pollute the corpus
If gray-list: it’s also blocked from being translated, but it can be unblocked if another user says it’s natural
Edit: deleted irrelevant ad hominem
> DJ_Saidez
> 3 hours ago
> I guess he means:
>
> If black-list: it’s blocked from being translated so as to not pollute the corpus
> If gray-list: it’s also blocked from being translated, but it can be unblocked if another user says it’s natural
Not at all, I mean the same thing as...
OK = white list
Unsure = gray list
I suppose that a gray list could also include something that's likely right, but not something I'd personally say or have ever heard others say.
> How would that be different from the current ? button, which is labelled "Mark as 'unsure'"?
It's not. However, sentences added to lists can be searched and exported.
tommy_san has some examples of gray lists. Browse his lists and you'll see some.
https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...&direction=asc
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