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Sentence #8095524

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iT4LL iT4LL August 7, 2019 August 7, 2019 at 12:36:42 PM UTC link Permalink

What do you mean? Should I delete the tag?

iT4LL iT4LL August 7, 2019, edited August 7, 2019 August 7, 2019 at 12:43:43 PM UTC, edited August 7, 2019 at 12:44:13 PM UTC link Permalink

I would appreciate it if you kept this sentence. I know it is long, and it could be divided in several sentences but I find it very useful to Portuguese language learners.

Yorwba Yorwba August 7, 2019 August 7, 2019 at 1:30:19 PM UTC link Permalink

Would the translation of the Portuguese example change if it were split into 6 separate sentences?

iT4LL iT4LL August 11, 2019 August 11, 2019 at 11:13:18 AM UTC link Permalink

Well this is native European Portuguese grammar.
Most foreigners still think we use the second person plural
"vós" which is not quite true.
We use "vocês" and that changes their perspective a lot.
It's so hard to have them remember this that I would rather
keep everything in the same place.

Yorwba Yorwba August 11, 2019 August 11, 2019 at 11:41:36 AM UTC link Permalink

That's just the "You like yourselves." part, isn't it? The problem with the example right now is that it sounds like someone rattling off a table in a grammar textbook. While Tatoeba can be made to serve that function (or that of a dictionary), what it is uniquely good for is, in my opinion, illustrating how words combine to form sentences and longer utterances that a native speaker would actually use e.g. in conversation.

If you want to illustrate how to use "vocês" correctly, adding more sentences with that word is the right strategy, but they should be a bit more interesting. E.g. to illustrate the difference between "you" (singular) and "you" (plural) you could write a short dialogue like "You are so egocentric! You just like yourself." "Well, you like yourselves as well, don't you?"

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #8095523Eu gosto de mim mesma. Tu gostas de ti mesma. Ela gosta de si mesma. Nós gostamos de nós mesmos. Vocês gostam de vocês mesmos. Eles gostam deles mesmos..

I like myself. You like yourself. She likes herself. We like ourselves. You like yourselves. @needs native check

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I like myself. You like yourself. She likes herself. We like ourselves. You like yourselves. They like themselves. @needs native check

edited by iT4LL, August 7, 2019

I like myself. You like yourself. She likes herself. We like ourselves. You like yourselves. They like themselves.

edited by iT4LL, August 7, 2019