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11164880 11164880 7 days ago March 12, 2024 at 2:06:10 AM UTC link Permalink

您好,我想要下载完整的多语种语音数据集,有什么办法可以下载吗?

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 7 days ago March 12, 2024 at 3:47:35 AM UTC link Permalink

链接在此。https://tatoeba.org/zh-cn/downloads
如果您有任何问题,请告诉我们!

DaoSeng DaoSeng 6 days ago March 12, 2024 at 7:49:37 PM UTC link Permalink

從 DJ_Saidez 給的頁面上下載好像需要一定的編程能力。幾年前有位用戶把這裡的音頻放進了 Anki 的牌組:https://ankiweb.net/shared/by-author/604511069 。您要是有 Anki ( https://apps.ankiweb.net )的話可以先下載那些牌組,然後再從 Anki 裡導出。

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 3 days ago March 16, 2024 at 5:29:23 AM UTC link Permalink

Thanks for sharing the Anki links, a lot easier!

3 days ago March 16, 2024 at 5:22:16 AM UTC link Permalink
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saverius saverius 9 days ago March 9, 2024 at 8:27:28 PM UTC link Permalink

¿Cómo se dice "adoctrinamiento" en latín?

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soridsolid soridsolid 6 days ago March 13, 2024 at 2:51:33 AM UTC link Permalink

I think ''imbuere'' is the best fit. (source: ''Smith & Hall'', and ''Georges-1910'')
The formula is: imbuere aliquem aliqua re.

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sharptoothed sharptoothed 8 days ago March 10, 2024 at 10:18:34 AM UTC link Permalink

✹✹ Stats & Graphs ✹✹

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
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11 days ago March 8, 2024 at 2:49:27 AM UTC link Permalink
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CK CK 15 days ago March 3, 2024 at 10:51:51 PM UTC link Permalink

🍎 Bilingual Audio Pairs

Get random selections of 1,000 setences using these links.

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67,376 occurrences

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If you prefer to see all translations, and not only English translations, change the last 3 letters of the above URLs to "und". (&trans_to=eng => &trans_to=und)

These are only a few of the possibilities.

Try other possibilities, starting with this "pre-filled advanced search form" set for Spanish-German pairs. (7,513 occurrences)

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CK CK 23 days ago, edited 23 days ago February 24, 2024 at 2:24:01 PM UTC, edited February 24, 2024 at 2:26:17 PM UTC link Permalink

🍎 Are you looking for English sentences to translate into your own language?

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sacredceltic sacredceltic 19 days ago February 28, 2024 at 9:35:18 PM UTC link Permalink

These links aren’t functional…

sharptoothed sharptoothed 22 days ago February 25, 2024 at 5:12:19 PM UTC link Permalink

✹✹ Stats & Graphs ✹✹

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/

lbdx lbdx February 3, 2024, edited February 3, 2024 February 3, 2024 at 9:41:48 AM UTC, edited February 3, 2024 at 9:54:18 AM UTC link Permalink

** Pruned/Rebalanced Lists **

Rebalanced lists are lexical filters that provide a more varied and balanced view of the Tatoeba Corpus. They prohibit a word from occurring more than 10 times as often as in a reference corpus. Long sentences of more than 15 words have little success with translators and are therefore systematically pruned. The most recent sentences are pruned before older ones. The words targeted are usually pervasive named entities that are used extensively by a few Tatoebans, and not relevant across languages.

10 major languages on Tatoeba are currently supported:
- English: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- French: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- German: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- Italian: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- Japanese: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- Mandarin Chinese: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- Portuguese: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- Russian: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- Spanish: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any
- Turkish: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentence...=1&orphans=any

All rebalanced lists are updated automatically every Saturday.

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sundown sundown February 4, 2024, edited February 4, 2024 February 4, 2024 at 9:00:09 AM UTC, edited February 4, 2024 at 9:00:42 AM UTC link Permalink

@lbdx Reading your description of the list in your profile, it's interesting to me that you date the imbalance of the English corpus to 2017: that's when I joined. Sharptooth's graphs show a massive increase of English sentences at that time. Until 2020 (or thereabouts), I myself had only added about 1,500 sentences.

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lbdx lbdx February 4, 2024 February 4, 2024 at 10:46:11 AM UTC link Permalink

The years 2017 and 2018 were years in which Tatoeba's main English-speaking contributor added hundreds of thousands of sentences in bulk.These sentences were mostly built according to syntactic patterns and used wildcards to avoid creating paraphrases that differ only in their named entities. These massive additions have greatly reduced the lexical diversity of the English corpus and increased the proportion of sentences containing pervasive words from 20% to 40%. This sudden change coincides with a sharp drop in the number of active contributors to Tatoeba.

The introduction of rate limits for sentence additions would prevent such a flood from happening again.

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sundown sundown February 11, 2024 February 11, 2024 at 8:07:40 AM UTC link Permalink

Thanks, @lbdx. It's good to have some numbers to back up what should be obvious to anyone who cares to look a bit at the English corpus and who has shaped it. Could you give us some more detail about the sharp drop in the number of active contributors? For example, has it been across all languages and countries?

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lbdx lbdx February 14, 2024 February 14, 2024 at 5:56:52 PM UTC link Permalink

The number of monthly sentence owners fell from 350-400 between 2012 and 2016 to 250-300 between 2017 and 2023. I don't have the details by language.

TRANG TRANG February 14, 2024 February 14, 2024 at 2:04:32 PM UTC link Permalink

Do you have any recommendation on what might be a good rate limit?

I did find a post where you suggested 3000 original sentences per month in one language:
https://tatoeba.org/en/wall/sho...#message_39818
Just wondering if you still think it's a good rate limit, or do you perhaps have another opinion now?
Any particular reason why you suggested a monthly rather than a daily or weekly cap?

If I may share some additional insight, perhaps some people don't know, but Tatoeba used to have a mass import feature. Only admins could access it, but you could send a list of sentences to an admin and ask for them to be imported. The feature was disabled on January 2019 because we migrated CakePHP from v2 to v3, and we didn't feel it was urgent to migrate the mass import feature. It was for the best, I guess. I would say this feature was the main cause for the reduced lexical diversity of the English corpus.

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lbdx lbdx February 14, 2024 February 14, 2024 at 5:48:48 PM UTC link Permalink

Trang, thank you for reopening the debate on this important issue.

My view on this has evolved slightly. I now think it would be simpler and more understandable to also include derived sentences in this rate limit of 3,000 sentences per language per month. Sentence counts would be reset at the beginning of each month. Once the limit has been reached, the user would not be allowed to add any more sentences until the following month. I prefer a monthly rate limit because it doesn't penalise users who don't contribute every day or every week.

Note that I'm not against the occasional import of other corpora into Tatoeba as long as they are lexically balanced and composed of sentences that are useful for language learners.

morbrorper morbrorper February 15, 2024 February 15, 2024 at 9:07:39 AM UTC link Permalink

I don't see the problem with a native speaker contributing useful sentences in great volumes; I'd rather have that than non-native speakers contributing questionable sentences, even in small volumes. But then, I don't see a big problem with Tom and Mary either.

I used to be a proponent of limits, but the more I think about it, I think any workable limits would have to be set so high as to make them more or less meaningless.

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Miktsoanit Miktsoanit February 15, 2024, edited February 15, 2024 February 15, 2024 at 5:52:29 PM UTC, edited February 15, 2024 at 5:52:43 PM UTC link Permalink

> I don't see the problem with a native speaker contributing useful sentences in great volumes; I'd rather have that than non-native speakers contributing questionable sentences, even in small volumes.

This is too simple. A native speaker contributing 1000 auto-generated sentences isn't necessarily more valuable than a non-native speaker contributing one correct sentence.

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morbrorper morbrorper February 16, 2024 February 16, 2024 at 6:05:13 PM UTC link Permalink

Obviously, we don't want any auto-generated content at all. But even with limits per hour, day, week and month, or a combination thereof, it's trivial to adjust a script to conform with that, and still be able to upload thousands of sentences we don't want.

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Yorwba Yorwba 30 days ago February 17, 2024 at 9:17:09 AM UTC link Permalink

Yes, an automated script can be slowed down arbitrarily to conform with any given limit, until it no longer has a quantitative advantage over someone adding sentences manually.

Uploading thousands of sentences we don't want is only possible if you're able to upload thousands of sentences in the first place.

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