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Quel groupe de phrases pourrait représenter Tatoeba ?

Je suis en train de réfléchir à quoi imprimer sur le t-shirt ou la tasse que les participants à Kodoeba recevront. Nous aimerions avoir un objet qui représente Tatoeba en général, pour qu’il puisse initier des discussions sur Tatoeba dans la vraie vie, et d’y ajouter une petite mention "Kodoeba #1" dans un coin. En d’autres mots, ce sera plus un objet de "Tatoeba" que de "Kodoeba".

Une tasse a été créée un jour [1]. J’aimerais faire un truc dans le genre, mais au lieu d’une phrase qui parle de thé et de café, je pense que nous pourrions trouver une phrase plus inspirante et en lien avec la philosophie du projet.

Aussi, avez-vous des idées pour la phrase ? Il faudrait qu’elle soit traduite dans toutes les langues des participants à Kodoeba, c’est-à-dire au moins l’anglais, le français, le portugais, le tagalog, le polonais, l’allemand, l’espagnol et l’italien (mais cela peut se faire plus tard ; d’autres langues sont évidemment bienvenues). Il faudrait aussi qu’elle ne soit pas trop longue.

Voici quelques premières idées :

#2456781 How do you say that in your language?
#656787 I know your language.
#478567 Sing a song in your language, please!
#1762086 Why don't you use your language?
#704105 It's all about sentences. Not words.
https://tatoeba.org/fra/sentences_lists/show/163 Tatoeba: Future Mottos

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What group of sentences could represent Tatoeba?

I am thinking about what to print on the t-shirt or mug that Kodoeba participants will receive. We’d like to have an object that represents Tatoeba in general, so that it can initiate discussions about Tatoeba in real life, and to add a small mention "Kodoeba #1" in a corner. In other words, it will be more of a "Tatoeba" object than a "Kodoeba" object.

A cup was created before [1]. I’d like to do something like that, but instead of a sentence about tea and coffee, I think we could find a sentence that is more inspiring and related to the philosophy of the project.

So any ideas for the sentence? It should be translated into all the languages of the Kodoeba participants, that is to say, at least English, French, Portuguese, Tagalog, Polish, German, Spanish and Italian (but this can be done later; other languages are obviously welcome). It should also be not too long.

Here are some initial ideas:

#2456781 How do you say that in your language?
#656787 I know your language.
#478567 Sing a song in your language, please!
#1762086 Why don't you use your language?
#704105 It's all about sentences. Not words.
https://tatoeba.org/fra/sentences_lists/show/163 Tatoeba: Future Mottos

[1] https://blog.tatoeba.org/2011/0...all-times.html

I'd like to ask for your remarks for the sentence #8870764.

The problem with it: There's no official word "Szögöd"...
(Szeged [pronounciation: "sagad"] is a Hungarian city where there's a dialect named from the town in which dialect people say "ö" instead of "e", but not always; it has its strict rules that I don't know - e.g. Szeged->Szöged.
So, people say "Szöged" in Szeged; but people in the rest of the country often say "Szögöd" because of the peculiarity of that dialect. Those persons aren't dumb, they just make a joke of that. (However, one can find several examples of the written form of Szögöd on the Internet.)
I just wanted to contemplate with this second-added translation what is special with this city.
Whether Adelpa intentionally choosed that city I don't know.

That problem occurs in several other cases I think: e.g.: kösz(i)ke (=köszönöm), zacsi (=zacskó), szeva (=szevasz). These are colloquial forms that everybody knows (everybody excepted linguists) and uses.
(Unfortunately they're unable to update the Hungarian language.)

Hi everyone,

As a Kotoeba participant, I am currently thinking of a way to structure tags. The question has already been raised here https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/333, but I would like to hear more about our needs and expectations.

Tags are a highly valuable feature of Tatoeba, provided that one can easily scan through them. It is currently hard to explore them, because we cannot see all we can do at a glance, hence the idea to organize tags :)

* I was thinking to organize tags hierarchically, such that each tag can have a parent, that is itself another tag. For example if "animals" is a tag, "cat" could be one of its children. This would enable to build trees as deep as we want, but I wonder whether we need it.
--> Do we need several levels of depth or is one level enough?

* As for the parent tags (super-tags), CK has already done a titanic work on classifying tags into categories http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/display_all_tags.html, that can be summarized as follows: language variants, grammar, topics, idioms, register, meta-information (length/quality), pronunciation, source (by ...). Obviously this list does not have to be decided now, we will be able to move tags across categories, but I think coming up with a few ideas can help answer the first question.
--> What tag categories do we need? How does it help answer the first question?

* Finally, there are duplicate tags, some because of translations, other because of different naming conventions. I do believe organizing tags is a first step to merging duplicates.

Thank you in advance for your feedback!

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I have added a vocabulary item for "brassage". But this vocabulary item does not appear in https://tatoeba.org/eng/vocabul..._sentences/fra

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Hello,

I read the wiki and it says that you currently don't provide an API for interfacing with the website. Is it even something that you are considering? I would be interested since you seem to have a pretty large corpus for Bulgarian that doesn't contain a lot of archaisms and would be useful for statistical analysis.

Thanks!

Apparemment, l’IHM du site en français a été changée sans que j’en sois notifié , alors qu’historiquement, c’est moi qui en ai traduit une partie importante. Je trouve ça grossier.
En plus, les changements ne sont pas justifiés, ce qui est un comble. Ça s’appelle un diktat, mais j’ignore qui est le nouveau dictateur de la langue française sur Tatoeba.. ça serait bien qu’il ait la décence de se présenter.
Par exemple, la nouvelle dénomination pour les placards (textes qu’on placarde sur un mur) est “message”...un message, dans mon vocabulaire et mon dictionnaire, nécessite un destinataire, c’est le principe de la messagerie et du courrier. Donc un message et un placard ne sont pas la même chose. Le placard ne nécessite pas de destinataire. Il s’adresse à tous ceux qui passent et le lisent. Si on commence à dénommer tout avec un terme unique passe-partout, autant abolir le language et revenir aux grognements...