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Nadokanza Nadokanza 29 days ago December 22, 2020 at 10:12:48 AM UTC link Permalink

Hi, I´m new in here and I´m looking forward to finding someone to practice my german. I am a native Portuguese speaker and I´m available to help anybody learning portuguese.

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez 28 days ago, edited 28 days ago December 22, 2020 at 11:06:14 AM UTC, edited December 22, 2020 at 11:23:54 AM UTC link Permalink

Bem-vindo

This isn't a language-exchange forum
If you're only looking for a language-exchange partner, I'd suggest a site like Tandem

But something you can do here is translate German sentences into Portuguese, and through that you can learn new words and see how they're tied together through grammar, and match the meaning of those German sentences with Portuguese sentences that you understand

I suggest reading these so you get an idea of what we're going for here
https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...ow/quick-start
https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...tor-in-tatoeba

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sacredceltic sacredceltic 26 days ago December 24, 2020 at 9:42:09 PM UTC link Permalink

This is going to help your German a lot ^^

CK CK December 19, 2020 December 19, 2020 at 7:40:05 AM UTC link Permalink

** Stats - 2020-12-05 Native Speakers Contributions with Links **

http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/stats-2020-12-19.html

jayrod84 jayrod84 December 18, 2020 December 18, 2020 at 9:02:38 PM UTC link Permalink

I am collecting sentences in chat between myself and a tutor. Is there not a way to batch upload new sentences? I see that there is no API but surely there must be a way to contribute easily.

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Guybrush88 Guybrush88 December 19, 2020 December 19, 2020 at 7:07:28 AM UTC link Permalink

Such a feature is still being discussed for development: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1762

maaster maaster December 18, 2020 December 18, 2020 at 4:03:45 PM UTC link Permalink

Gratula a magyar csapatnak!
Szép munka volt fiúk, lányok!

Cabo Cabo December 18, 2020 December 18, 2020 at 4:01:54 PM UTC link Permalink

SPAAAARTA-ezer mondat gyűlt össze eddig a magyar mondatokból.

Gratulálok mindenkinek, aki bármely módon bővítette a korpusz ezen részét!

CK CK December 17, 2020, edited December 18, 2020 December 17, 2020 at 3:44:12 AM UTC, edited December 18, 2020 at 2:50:42 AM UTC link Permalink

With Christmas about a week away, perhaps some of you would like to browse sentences tagged "Christmas."

https://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sh...s_with_tag/493



Remember that you can also use the "Christmas" tag when using the advanced search, so you can limit your search to just sentence that are not yet translated into your own language if you want to.

Here is an advanced search template for English to Japanese.
You can load this page and change the 2 places with "Japanese" to your own native language, and the 1 place with "English" to the language you want to read and translate.


https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...&sort_reverse=
[Updated: What I posted yesterday wasn't exactly right.]

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 December 16, 2020 December 16, 2020 at 8:37:39 AM UTC link Permalink

I'd like to request translations for the following Portuguese sentence

» https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/9483572

"Eu agradeço por tudo que você fez por mim."

Thank you!

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez December 16, 2020 December 16, 2020 at 8:46:49 AM UTC link Permalink

I added English, Spanish and proposed a Japanese one

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Ricardo14 Ricardo14 December 16, 2020 December 16, 2020 at 8:47:35 AM UTC link Permalink

Thank you! :)

AlanF_US AlanF_US December 15, 2020 December 15, 2020 at 10:33:07 PM UTC link Permalink

I'm having trouble leaving comments on sentence pages and sending private messages. Is that true for other people as well?

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez December 15, 2020, edited December 15, 2020 December 15, 2020 at 11:00:32 PM UTC, edited December 15, 2020 at 11:01:56 PM UTC link Permalink

I had that problem too, I think it just cleared up (I wasn't able to reply to your post until now)

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen December 15, 2020 December 15, 2020 at 11:26:45 PM UTC link Permalink

It seems to work once more. I think Trang is investigating.

TRANG TRANG December 15, 2020 December 15, 2020 at 11:30:58 PM UTC link Permalink

There was some issue with Gmail, apparently.
https://downdetector.com/status/gmail/

We're using Gmail SMTP to send email notifications and these could not be sent. As a result, any action that requires sending an email notification would lead to an error page.

Things seem to be back to normal now.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US December 16, 2020 December 16, 2020 at 2:40:48 AM UTC link Permalink

Yes, I can write both comments and private messages now. Thanks!

odexed odexed December 12, 2020 December 12, 2020 at 6:44:13 PM UTC link Permalink

Is there any way to open 101st page in Advanced Search?

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CK CK December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 1:34:15 AM UTC link Permalink

I don't think so, but you can reverse the sort, which in effect offers you an additional 1,000 search results if your query gets more than 2,000 results.

rumpelstilzchen rumpelstilzchen December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 4:36:45 AM UTC link Permalink

No. For performance reasons, we only fetch 1000 matching sentences from the search engine.

Why do you need more than 1000 sentences? Can't you narrow down your search?

For mass analysis we offer our weekly exports (there are also language specific files): https://tatoeba.org/eng/downloads

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odexed odexed December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 3:53:29 PM UTC link Permalink

I don't think it would affect the performance if I could skip first 1000 matching sentences and get another 1000. I don't need more than 1000 sentences, I may need some other sentences that match my options.

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DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 8:02:54 PM UTC link Permalink

Maybe do a random search and then search again? Would that come up with a new set of 1000?

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odexed odexed December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 8:37:54 PM UTC link Permalink

Some sentences may repeat. This is not exactly what I expect.

Cabo Cabo December 13, 2020, edited December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 8:29:16 PM UTC, edited December 13, 2020 at 8:29:34 PM UTC link Permalink

Are you searching for sentences with certain length or number of words?

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odexed odexed December 13, 2020, edited December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 8:36:12 PM UTC, edited December 13, 2020 at 8:36:39 PM UTC link Permalink

Yes, with fewest words first.

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Cabo Cabo December 13, 2020, edited December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 8:59:41 PM UTC, edited December 13, 2020 at 9:01:27 PM UTC link Permalink

If you download that language pack and put it in Excel, you can do lots of things, for example you can count the words in a sentence and then you can order them. (sadly you need to search each of the sentences by their id if you want to do with them anything in Tatoeba)

This may help you: https://exceljet.net/formula/co...ords-in-a-cell

I don't know better options for you know.

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odexed odexed December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 9:06:24 PM UTC link Permalink

Thanks, I know about that possibility. I wanted to discuss if it's possible to make it more user-friendly...

Yorwba Yorwba December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 8:48:58 PM UTC link Permalink

To get the 101st page of the search results, the search engine fetches the first 101 pages and then retains only the 101st one, so 100 pages are thrown away. While the performance difference between 100 pages and 101 is probably less than 1% (there's also a significant baseline cost for every query, no matter how many pages you request), there's a slippery slope to keep increasing the limit. After all, if you didn't find what you were looking for on the first 100 pages, who's to say you're going to find it on the 101st, 200th or even 1000th page?

I don't know the actual performance figures, though. It would be interesting to know how much higher the limit could theoretically be.

But if you can't find what you're looking for even though your search returns 1000 sentences, that indicates there's an underlying issue: the search engine doesn't let you specify exactly what you want, so you get a lot of results that are irrelevant to you. If you tell us what kinds of sentences you want to find, maybe we can add it as an option to the search engine.

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odexed odexed December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 9:04:45 PM UTC link Permalink

I want to find a bunch of shortest sentences with audio to learn and then another bunch of sentences with the same purpose. So I don't looking for anything specific.

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Cabo Cabo December 13, 2020, edited December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 9:19:33 PM UTC, edited December 13, 2020 at 9:22:18 PM UTC link Permalink

If you are searching for learning material I'm not really sure that you need an inner search options update.
Some members make their own projects using corpus data. (e.g. CK)
May you can ask them what are the options.

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odexed odexed December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 9:30:05 PM UTC link Permalink

Why not? I think anyone could have much more profit if we had this opportunity to use built-in facilities of the search engine.

CK CK December 14, 2020 December 14, 2020 at 12:48:52 AM UTC link Permalink

This isn't the ideal way to do it, perhaps, but it is a way that you can use temporarily.

Search for sentences which start with certain words.

I created a list of pre-determined searches for you, assuming you want to browse Spanish with audio, and see Russian translations if they exist.

http://tatoeba.ueuo.com/spa-fir...sentences.html

You could also do something similar for sentences that end with certain words, or with sentences that include certain high-frequency words, etc.

sharptoothed sharptoothed December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 5:26:05 PM UTC link Permalink

** Stats & Graphs **

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated.
Now "Tatoeba Sentences & Translations Stats" and "Tatoeba User Activity Chart" show "Original sentences" numbers and "Original / total" ratio.
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/

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Guybrush88 Guybrush88 December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 5:41:27 PM UTC link Permalink

as always, thanks for the stats

Igider Igider December 13, 2020, edited December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 7:38:24 PM UTC, edited December 13, 2020 at 7:38:47 PM UTC link Permalink

Thank's a lot for the stats, as always.

soliloquist soliloquist December 13, 2020 December 13, 2020 at 10:02:49 PM UTC link Permalink

> Now "Tatoeba Sentences & Translations Stats" and "Tatoeba User Activity Chart"
> show "Original sentences" numbers and "Original / total" ratio.

Thank you very much for that.