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bandeirante
27 days ago
A Tatoeba magyar szekciója nem tolerálható. Kiléptem, és nem én vagyok az első.
The Hungarian section of Tatoeba is no longer tolerable. I quit. I'm not the first one either.
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soliloquist
27 days ago - 27 days ago
Not long ago, I've noticed a Turkish advanced contributor unlinking sentences of some users (including mine), just because they are not translated literally or have some errors, and without being kind enough to leave a comment. I sent a PM, but couldn't get a response. Unfortunately, it's not easy for one to track down their unlinked sentences. I wish we could easily see the editing, unlinking and tagging activities made on our sentences, just like we can see comments.

I don't know what exactly the problem within the Hungarian community is, but I guess such behavior isn't limited to the Turkish community. Still, I think you shouldn't leave just for that reason.
AlanF_US
27 days ago
If you are encountering problems, you should send a private message or an e-mail to the admins. We hope that we can resolve them.
mraz
26 days ago
@bandeirante, döntésed sajnálatos. Ugyanakkor érthetetlen, amit írsz!

Mit jelent itt (Tatoeba) "magyar szekció" ? Van ilyen?

The Hungarian section of Tatoeba = ?
Pfirsichbaeumchen
27 days ago
Happy birthday, Carlos Alberto! Feliz aniversário! 😊
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marafon
27 days ago
Feliz aniversário, caro Carlos Alberto!
Guybrush88
27 days ago
Happy birthday!
sharptoothed
28 days ago
* Tatoeba Top 30 Languages Interactive Graphs*

Tatoeba Top 30 Languages Interactive Graphs have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/igraph/
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/igraph/share.html
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Guybrush88
27 days ago
thanks
belkacem77
28 days ago
How can I do to make all my contributions by default CC0?
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belkacem77
28 days ago
Done and thanks
TRANG
2018-12-17 01:40
**Code migration of Tatoeba**

In the past couple of months we've been working on upgrading the framework on which Tatoeba is built (CakePHP) to a newer version. We're starting to have something tangible so I deployed the new Tatoeba version on the dev website: https://dev.tatoeba.org/

I would like to invite everyone to test and report things that do not work, as this will help me prioritize what to fix. Please focus on testing features that would impact you the most. You can report issues here on the Wall or in the Tatoeba chatroom at https://chat.tatoeba.org.

Do not create issues on GitHub. At this stage, many things still don't work. I'm keeping track of what's left to do in a GitHub project:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/projects/2
If something doesn't work and you see it in the "To do" column, there is no need to report it.

I am aiming to deploy the new Tatoeba on the main website somewhere around mid-January. This leaves us about 4 weeks to test and fix as many things as possible. For some features will remain broken, but that's okay, as long as the new Tatoeba is overall functional, the rest can be fixed afterwards.

Thank you for your help!
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AlanF_US
2018-12-17 12:12 - 2018-12-19 10:14
At the moment, any search I do for a word fails. The form of the error display differs depending on whether I'm logged in and whether it's an ordinary or advanced search. This is the error I get when I do an advanced search for a word:

"Call to a member function getSearchableLists() on boolean
Error"
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TRANG
2018-12-18 21:46
I'll be tackling the search next week. It's one of the features that has not been migrated yet.
TRANG
2018-12-30 17:37
The search feature has been migrated and is now testable on the dev website.
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AlanF_US
2019-01-01 18:55
Searches now result in other errors. For instance, this regular search for translations of "bull" into Russian:

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/sen...rom=eng&to=rus

results in this error message:

Call to a member function linkTranslationModel() on boolean
Error in: ROOT/src/Controller/SentencesController.php, line 870

as well as a bunch of warnings.
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AlanF_US
2019-01-06 18:15
It looks like the problem has been fixed. I don't get an error anymore.
Rockaround
2018-12-18 20:27
Do we need to create a new account? Is there one for testing purposes? I tried mine in case the user database was the same, but it does not seem to be working.
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TRANG
2018-12-18 21:05
You'll need to create a new account (which is a good thing because you'll be testing if the registration works fine).

The database is a copy from the website from a couple of years ago. If you were not registered back then, you won't have an account on the dev website.
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Rockaround
2018-12-18 21:26
Good that I tried, since it does not seem to be working. I am redirected to the same page (https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/users/register), without any error message, but with the "we need to make sure you are human" field empty and the "terms of use" checkbox unchecked.

I tried many times, so I am fairly confident it's not a human error. Firefox v64.0.
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TRANG
2018-12-30 17:38
The registration should be fixed now, please give it another try when you can.
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Rockaround
2019-01-02 08:33
Somehow, now, my username and email address are already taken. I guess some part of the process went through last time. However, I cannot connect with my usual password, and the "recover password" function does not seem to work, as I don't receive any email, even in the spam folder.
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TRANG
2019-01-02 09:10
The email notification was disabled (to avoid spam) which is why you couldn't use the "Reset password" feature. I enabled it and triggered the password recovery for your account. You should be receiving an email with the new password.

Also, when you were not able to login previously, it was probably because you tried to log in with an incorrect password. I didn't realize you were registered since 2013. Any account created before 2018 should actually be available on the dev website.
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Rockaround
2019-01-02 20:23
So the recover password function works well.

Having a wrong url can cause troubles though: https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/users/register) This one (with the parenthesis at the end) gives a "Missing Method in UsersController" error page.

Email addresses with a "+" sign are refused when registering. That's a shame, as it is a very nice functionality for many email providers.

Otherwise, I tried registering another account, to finally test the functionality, and that seems to be working flawlessly.
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TRANG
2019-01-10 20:28
The error page is now the same as on the main website.

Note that the error page you saw was due to debug mode being enabled and will appear if debug is enabled again on the dev website.
Guybrush88
2018-12-18 22:43
I just noticed that the count of sentences in some pages is wrong, since it says that there's just one sentence, even if there are several thousands of sentences in the selected languages and in the general Tatoeba corpus. The first occurence is here: https://dev.tatoeba.org/ita/sta...es_by_language , although every other number of sentences for each language is fine. The other occurence appears in such urls: https://dev.tatoeba.org/ita/sen...ne/indifferent or https://dev.tatoeba.org/ita/sen...ne/indifferent or https://dev.tatoeba.org/ita/sen...ne/indifferent
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TRANG
2018-12-30 17:38
There was some issue with plural strings. This should be fixed now.
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Guybrush88
2018-12-30 20:37
I think there has been a regression, now everything in the gui is shown in English even when switching between several locales
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TRANG
2018-12-30 23:21
It's fixed.
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Guybrush88
2018-12-31 09:02
thanks
AlanF_US
2019-01-01 01:06
I found two issues and sent you e-mail about them. They have to do with functionality regarding sentence lists (selecting the language(s) in which to show the translations and downloading a list).
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AlanF_US
2019-01-06 18:21
It looks like both of these issues have been fixed. Thanks!
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TRANG
2019-01-06 22:20
Thanks for re-testing :)
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AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:03
You're welcome. :)

New problem (or new manifestation of old problem): I did a search for the word "бы" in Russian, specifying random order for results:

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/sen...o=&sort=random

and that went fine. However, when I clicked "Owned by a self-identified native" and then the "Advanced search" button, I saw this:

Notice (1024): Undefined property: SentencesController::$UsersLanguages in /srv/tatoeba.org/www/src/Controller/SentencesController.php on line 713 [CORE/src/Controller/Controller.php, line 387]

Warning (512): Unable to emit headers. Headers sent in file=/srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php line=853 [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 48]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 148]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 181]

Call to a member function find() on boolean
Error
Documentation API
Error in: ROOT/src/Controller/SentencesController.php, line 713
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TRANG
2019-01-10 16:47
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:12
Searching for "君の家" (no quotes) in any language led to these warnings:

Notice (1024): Search query warning: index 'jpn_main_index': query word(s) mismatch: 君, の, 家 [APP/Model/Behavior/SphinxBehavior.php, line 130]

Notice (1024): Search query warning: index 'jpn_main_index': query word(s) mismatch: 君, の, 家 [APP/Model/Behavior/SphinxBehavior.php, line 130]

Warning (512): Unable to emit headers. Headers sent in file=/srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php line=853 [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 48]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 148]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 181]

but 8 results were found.
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TRANG
2019-01-07 18:44
These are only warnings and, I think, can be ignored. The warning message show up on the dev website because debug mode is on. On the main website, they will not show up.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:14 - 2019-01-07 04:14
ׂSearching for "אוהב" in any language (no quotes) led to this line:

:::
Search: אוהב (1,000 results out of 1908 occurrences)
:::

It's a little odd that there's a thousands separator in "1,000" but none in "1908".
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TRANG
2019-01-10 16:49
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:19 - 2019-01-07 04:20
Searching for "אוהב" where "Is unapproved" is set to "Yes" leads to somewhat strangely formatted output:

:::
Advanced search (0 results)

< >

< >
:::

where the < and > symbols are gray. I guess that these are the header and footer for the list, and would contain page numbers if there were any hits. However, doing the same advanced search on the main site shows the following:

:::
No results found for: אוהב
:::

without any < or > symbols. That certainly looks better.
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TRANG
2019-01-10 16:49
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:22
Clicking on "Contribute" -> "Add sentences" brings up a page where "Sentences added" is one of the two choices. Clicking on "SENTENCES WANTED" at the bottom gives the following:

:::

Unknown method "getPaginatedVocabulary"
BadMethodCallException
Could this be caused by using Auto-Tables?
...

:::
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TRANG
2019-01-10 16:51
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:26
Going to "Add new sentences" and then adding a sentence that already exists gives the warning "Your sentence was not added because the following already exists." That's great. However, nothing stops you from adding a "translation" of a sentence that has the same content and same language as the original.
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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:10
The translation is not really added, if you refresh, it will actually disappear.

This is the case already in production, if I'm not mistaken. When adding translations there is no warning about duplicates. The translation is displayed no matter what. If the sentence already exists, then only the link is created.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:33
Clicking on my "Wall messages" displays the following:

:::

AlanF_US's messages on the Wall (total %count%)

< >

< >
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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:12
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:34
Clicking on "Translate AlanF_US's sentences" (from my profile) displays the following under every sentence except the first in the list:

:::

Warning (2): array_keys() expects parameter 1 to be array, object given [APP/View/Helper/SentencesHelper.php, line 155]

Warning (2): array_keys() expects parameter 1 to be array, object given [APP/View/Helper/SentencesHelper.php, line 156]

Warning (2): array_merge() [<a href='https://secure.php.net/function...ay-merge</a>]: Argument #1 is not an array [APP/View/Helper/SentencesHelper.php, line 159]

Warning (2): array_slice() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [APP/View/Helper/SentencesHelper.php, line 175]

Warning (2): array_slice() expects parameter 1 to be array, null given [APP/View/Helper/SentencesHelper.php, line 176]

Warning (2): Invalid argument supplied for foreach() [APP/View/Helper/SentencesHelper.php, line 181]

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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:13
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:39
On the dev site, in the list of interface languages, Arabic (or at least some language with Arabic script) is last. On the production site, this language is eighth from last. I don't know whether this discrepancy matters.
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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:14
I guess that would be just a minor inconvenience: if you are an Arabic speaker and were used to find the language in that position, it'll take a bit more time to find the item in the list.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 04:47
Clicking on "Transcriptions" in my profile gives the following output:

:::

Notice (1024): Undefined property: TranscriptionsController::$User in /srv/tatoeba.org/www/src/Controller/TranscriptionsController.php on line 149 [CORE/src/Controller/Controller.php, line 387]

Warning (512): Unable to emit headers. Headers sent in file=/srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php line=853 [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 48]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 148]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 181]

Call to a member function getIdFromUsername() on boolean
Error
Error in: ROOT/src/Controller/TranscriptionsController.php, line 149
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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:15
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 15:28
Click on "Contribute -> Improve sentences", then click on "@change". You get this:

:::
@change (1,120 sentence)
:::

There should be no thousands separator (unless we always use a thousands separator with four-digit numbers throughout the interface), and "sentence" should be "sentences".
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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:39
This is fixed.

Note that there are probably other places where the numbers are localized. For instance:
- in English "1,000"
- in French "1 000"

It seems that in the new CakePHP, the formatting of messages related to pagination handles localization of numbers. So wherever there's pagination and the title mentions the number of results, you may see a separator for big numbers. Not always because it depends how we coded it.

In the long term we probably want to use the localized numbers (with separators) everywhere, to make big numbers more readable. I think until then we can live with a bit of discrepancy, having some places with separators and some without.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 15:34
If I go to "Languages of members", then click on "English", I get this:

:::
The User association is not defined on UsersLanguages.
InvalidArgumentException
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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:40
This is fixed.
AlanF_US
2019-01-07 15:38
If I go to my profile, then click "Vocabulary", I get this:

:::
Class 'App\Controller\Sanitize' not found
Error in: ROOT/src/Controller/VocabularyController.php, line 78
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TRANG
2019-01-10 17:40
This is fixed.
Guybrush88
2019-01-07 11:49 - 2019-01-07 11:50
I tried to add a brand new sentence with no translations. It was properly added, but I got this message: Your sentence was not added because the following already exists.

Also, the auto-detection of languages doesn't work at all. I tried both with a brand new sentence and a translation, and the language is set as unknown.
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TRANG
2019-01-10 20:12
This is fixed.
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Guybrush88
2019-01-10 21:46
The auto-detection of languages when adding a new sentence isn't working yet, I still always get the sentences I add marked as "unknown" language.
Guybrush88
2019-01-07 11:53 - 2019-01-07 11:55
Tags get eventually added, but first, I get this message in a new page that gets opened (https://dev.tatoeba.org/ita/tags/add_tag_post), instead of remaining in the same page:

Warning (2): fopen(http://127.0.0.1:8080/add?str=p...&amp;value=1): failed to open stream: Connection refused [APP/Event/SuggestdListener.php, line 37]

Warning (512): Unable to emit headers. Headers sent in file=/srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php line=853 [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 48]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 148]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 181]

Warning (2): Cannot modify header information - headers already sent by (output started at /srv/tatoeba.org/www/vendor/cakephp/cakephp/src/Error/Debugger.php:853) [CORE/src/Http/ResponseEmitter.php, line 181]
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TRANG
2019-01-10 20:12
This is fixed.
Guybrush88
2019-01-07 11:57
When opening the page containing all the sentences containing a given tag (i.e. https://dev.tatoeba.org/ita/tag...tag/5616/ita), the sentences are not shown and I get these error messages:

Notice (8): Trying to get property of non-object [APP/Template/Element/sentences/sentence_and_translations.ctp, line 12]

Notice (8): Trying to get property of non-object [APP/Template/Element/sentences/sentence_and_translations.ctp, line 16]

Notice (8): Trying to get property of non-object [APP/Template/Element/sentences/sentence_and_translations.ctp, line 22]

Notice (8): Trying to get property of non-object [APP/Template/Element/sentences/sentence_and_translations.ctp, line 24]

Notice (8): Trying to get property of non-object [APP/Template/Element/sentences/sentence_and_translations.ctp, line 26]
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TRANG
2019-01-10 20:13
This is fixed.
Guybrush88
2019-01-10 21:51
a minor issue: when posting a new message on the wall, within the browser tab, there isn't the thread number, which is present on prod
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TRANG
2019-01-12 18:37
This is fixed.
Guybrush88
2019-01-10 21:53
On prod, when one wants to delete one of his messages on the wall, he/she gets a confirmation box before actually deleting it. On dev, this doesn't happen, the message gets deleted right away without any confirmation box
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TRANG
2019-01-12 18:37
This is fixed.
Guybrush88
2019-01-10 22:10
The auto-completion of tags doesn't work. When I start to type an existing tag, the dropdown menu doesn't appear, as it should do
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TRANG
2019-01-10 22:56
The tool for auto-completion of tags is not installed on the dev. The same goes for language detection.

These features cannot be tested currently. Depending if I have time or not to install the tools, they may be tested next week on dev, but otherwise we can only check that once the main website is updated.
AlanF_US
2019-01-11 19:12
Trang, first of all, many thanks for all the fixes that you and your team have done! I also appreciate your reporting on them here. I'm going to use this post as the base for any comments about new problems I find.
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AlanF_US
2019-01-11 19:16
When I try to make an indirect link into a direct link on the random sentence on the main page, the "in progress" wheel spins around but never stops. However, when I go to one of those sentences in a separate browser tab, I see that it has been linked correctly. Here's the random sentence:

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/365568

and here are the sentences I linked to it:

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/42187
https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/430410
AlanF_US
2019-01-11 21:33
The lists to which a sentence belongs are not being displayed properly on the right-hand side. To recreate this, add a sentence to a list. Then go to that sentence's page. On the right-hand side, under "Lists", you'll see a bullet without the name of the list.
AlanF_US
2019-01-11 21:44
When I go to the page for a list and change the value of "Who can add/remove sentences", the "in progress" wheel keeps spinning without stopping.
TRANG
2019-01-12 18:39
The 3 errors you reported above are fixed.
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AlanF_US
2019-01-12 21:08
Thanks! Here are two more:

(1) Somehow, the contents of my list "Rus (5): worth learning: private"

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/sen...ists/show/7436

got lost between yesterday and today. Unless someone deliberately deleted those sentences from the list, something went wrong.

(2) I can't create a new list. If I try, I get the message "An Internal Error Has Occurred".
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TRANG
2019-01-13 17:46
These should be fixed.
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AlanF_US
2019-01-13 22:29
Thanks!

I notice that audio can't be played on the dev site. In cases where the same sentence exists on both prod and dev, the URL for the audio looks similar:

https://audio.tatoeba.org/sentences/fra/181359.mp3
https://dev.tatoeba.org/files/audio/fra/181359.mp3

This could well be a test issue rather than a software issue, but I'm reporting it anyway.
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TRANG
2019-01-16 19:47
This is fixed. I changed the audio URL to audio.tatoeba.org. This was a config issue.
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AlanF_US
2019-01-16 23:56
I confirmed that this works now. Thanks.
Guybrush88
2019-01-15 19:17
On dev, whenever I try to modify my settings, I get told every time that an error has occurred while saving the new settings, but no details are provided. No setting change is actually modified. I tested this with many different settings.
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TRANG
2019-01-16 19:42
This should be fixed. It was not happening all the time, only if "Email notifications" were disabled.
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Guybrush88
2019-01-16 20:40
yep, I confirm it is fixed, thanks
cojiluc
2019-01-17 20:33 - 2019-01-17 20:42
In the advanced search, when one searches for all sentences in the language X where there is a translation by a user Y, one gets an error saying that

“translation owner”, because “Y” is not a valid username

For example try, X=French, Y=Trang:

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/sen...io=&sort=words
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AlanF_US
2019-01-18 14:25
I confirmed this. The interesting thing is that specifying "Trang" as an owner of the sentence (not the translation) works.
TRANG
2019-01-18 21:25
Good catch. This is fixed.
CK
CK
2019-01-18 06:09
Problem with browsing tags.

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/tag..._with_tag/7770

An Internal Error Has Occurred
Error: An Internal Error Has Occurred.

(I tried it twice.)



https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/tag..._with_tag/1097

However, this one gets no error.
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TRANG
2019-01-18 21:18
I haven't had any issue.
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CK
CK
2019-01-19 00:51
I tried the first link again and this time I got the following error.
https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/tag..._with_tag/7770

Error: Allowed memory size of 134217728 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 14688256 bytes)
File /srv/tatoeba.org/www/src/View/Helper/TranscriptionsHelper.php
Line: 183
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TRANG
30 days ago - 30 days ago
I see, this is when you have the settings at 100 results per page.

This is probably not something I'll be able to fix right now. This is an optimization issue.
soliloquist
2019-01-18 20:01
I think there's a bug with the add-to-list function on pages with numerous sentences (like list pages or "translate user's sentences" pages). On such pages, sentence selection goes wrong if a previously-selected sentence is selected again. Add-to-list command is erroneously sent to the previous sentence.

It might sound unclear so I've created a few example sentences to demonstrate.

https://dev.tatoeba.org/eng/act...es_of/testuser

Just add those sentences into some lists. Do it in order, not randomly. After getting done with the 3rd one, select the 1st or 2nd one again and try to add it into another list. You'll reproduce the bug.

This is present on both the main and the dev site.
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TRANG
30 days ago
I'll be creating an issue for this on GitHub. The list feature in general would need a complete revamp.
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soliloquist
30 days ago
Thank you.
Maxence
2019-01-14 18:35
Bonjour,
Depuis peu, j'ai des difficultés pour changer les drapeaux des phrases, je dois parfois m'y reprendre à 3-4 fois et parfois cela n'a aucun effet...

Avez-vous le même souci ?
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Yorwba
2019-01-14 22:36
I assume you're talking about the sentences you're adding through your Voltaire bot. While not being able to change the flag shouldn't happen, you could avoid the problem in the first place by including the language when you add sentences. If you're using a POST request to /sentences/add_an_other_sentence, adding selectedLang=fra should be enough.

By the way, I noticed that your bot has some serious quality issues. If you could publish your code somewhere, I might be able to help you fix that.
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CK
CK
2019-01-15 01:27
Perhaps the best solution, if you are going to use a bot to generate or harvest sentences, would be to have the bot create a text file that you proofread and then ask TRANG to import the sentences for you. This would solve both the quality problem and the wrong language flag problem.
TRANG
2019-01-15 04:38
Il y a un bug: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1678

Il ne faut pas cliquer sur le bouton "éditer" pour changer la langue. Il faut cliquer directement sur le drapeau et sélectionner la langue.
TRANG
2019-01-17 13:26
Pour info je viens de corriger la langue des phrases qui n'ont pas été détectées comme françaises.
Thanuir
2019-01-15 10:49
At the moment there are two parallel systems for assessing the quality of sentences: The OK - not sure - not OK buttons, and the system of tags like @ok, @check, etc.

Should only one of these systems be used or both of them? Is there any integration between them? Especially the Ok-features seem redundant.
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CK
CK
2019-01-15 11:19 - 2019-01-15 11:23
I think that perhaps TRANG was thinking about using the rating system to help with quality control, replacing the OK tag, but I'm not sure.


* The OK tag

** Disadvantages
--one needs to be an advanced contributor to add the tag.
--only one person can add the tag.

** Advantages
--In advanced search, you can limit searches to only those sentences tagged OK.
-- You can browse all sentences in a given language tagged OK. For example, the almost 6,000 French sentences tagged OK. https://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sh...with_tag/7/fra


* The OK Rating (currently called "collection(s)")

** Disadvantages
--since the ratings are called collections, non-native speakers add OK ratings, too, which may not be as trustworthy.
--There is no way to easily list all sentences in a given language that are rated OK.
--No way to limit searches to rated sentences.
--Not many members are using this yet. However, I have given OK ratings to over 700,000 English sentences. https://tatoeba.org/eng/collections/of/CK/ok


** Advantages
--With the exported data, it's easy to find the sentences with the most OK ratings. If several native speakers have rated a sentence OK, it's likely good.
--You can also see which sentences have a "not OK". This way if there are 2 OK ratings and 5 Not OK ratings, you may suspect that the sentences isn't really OK.
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Thanuir
2019-01-15 13:57
Thank you for the information. I understand that thus far there is no interaction between the features, so both play different roles.
sharptoothed
2019-01-14 09:10
** Stats & Graphs **

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/
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deniko
2019-01-14 09:58
It's been a while, thanks a lot.
Guybrush88
2019-01-14 11:33
thanks :)
Ricardo14
2019-01-14 12:57
Thank you so much!
MarijnKp
2019-01-13 19:01
I've noticed lately that there are a lot of languages without a Dutch translation on the Dutch version of this website. I've made a list of those languages with the Dutch translation. Who can I send this list to, so the names can be changed?
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soliloquist
2019-01-13 22:04
You can create a transifex account and translate those untranslated strings yourself.

https://www.transifex.com/tatoeba/tatoeba_website/
CK
CK
2019-01-12 02:31
** New German Voice **

Driini has contributed 150 audio files.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc.../show/8680/und

If you, too, would like to help by contributing audio files in your native language, please read http://bit.ly/shtooka.
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raggione
2019-01-12 08:58
sounds good