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seveleu_dubrovnik
14 days ago - 14 days ago
Hey, I have added an article on Tatoeba to the Belarusian Wikipedia !

https://be.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatoeba
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deniko
14 days ago
> У сакавіку 2019 года налічвае 322 моўных раздзелы

333?
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seveleu_dubrovnik
14 days ago
Дзякуй! Done. Thanks!
JeanM
20 days ago
I'd be curious to hear what people think about the following feature suggestion: allow users to release *any* personal contribution under CC0, even if it's e.g. a translation of a sentence that's under CC-BY 2.0 FR.

The original license would still apply, since a translation is a derivative work – and a warning should probably be shown. However, should the source sentence ever be released under CC0, then I believe this would mean that the translation could also be automatically switched to the less restrictive CC0 (which I favour for my own contributions).

(Although of course I am not a lawyer and I could be completely wrong about all of this.)
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AmarMecheri
19 days ago
Exactement ... et plus encore! Je suis parfaitement d'accord avec vous.
Plus encore... je ne comprends pas ... pourquoi quand je donne des variantes de MES PROPRES PHRASES sous CCO 1.0 (toujours en kabyle ou traduites par moi-même vers le français et l'anglais) ... pourquoi je suis obligé de cliquer ... encore ... pour préciser CCO 1.0, faute de quoi elles s'affichent en CC-BY 2.0 FR. Alors que TOUTES MES PHRASES M'APPARTIENNENT....

Exactly ... and more! I totally agree with you.
More ... I do not understand ... why when I give variants of MY OWN PHRASES under CCO 1.0 (still in Kabyle or translated by myself to French and English) ... why I have to click ... again ... to specify CCO 1.0, otherwise they are displayed in CC-BY 2.0 FR. While ALL MY PHRASES ARE MINE....
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JeanM
19 days ago
Je crois qu'il s'agit simplement d'une limitation de l'interface de Tatoeba. Si c'est une traduction d'une phrase sous CC0, d'après ce que j'ai compris, légalement vous pouvez toujours la diffuser sous la licence CC0.

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I think it's just a limitation of Tatoeba's interface. If it's a translation of a sentence under CC0, legally you can always release it under CC0, as far as I understand.


https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...contributions#

"While it should logically be possible to use CC0 for the translations or audio of a CC0 sentence, we have not yet implemented this possibility in Tatoeba. We will consider it once we have a larger number of CC0 sentences."
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AmarMecheri
17 days ago - 17 days ago
@JeanM
Thank you for responding, but it's way worse than what you said.
In fact, we who want to benefit our young friends researchers / students through the license CCO 1.0, we are really AFFLIGED to have to write our Kabyle sentences, one by one under license CCO 1.0.
Because, if we link them from the beginning by writing them following a key phrase, they are considered as translations and are adorned with the label CC FR 2.0. It takes crazy time for the Kabyle contributors, who wanted to gain time. We do this FOR HONOR, NOT FOR EMBRYING (annoying) Tatoeba. Do something, if possible, please! Have pity on our language, which almost disappeared!
 @JeanM
Merci d'avoir répondu, mais c'est bien pire que ce que vous avez dit.
En fait, nous qui voulons profiter nos jeunes amis chercheurs / étudiants via de la licence CCO 1.0, nous sommes vraiment AFFLIGÉS de devoir écrire nos phrases en kabyle, une par une, sous licence CCO 1.0.
En effet, si nous les lions dès le départ en les écrivant à la suite d'une phrase clé, elles sont considérées comme des traductions et sont affublées de l'étiquette CC FR 2.0. Cela nous prend un temps fou, nous les contributeurs kabyles qui voulaient gagner du temps. Nous faisons cela POUR L'HONNEUR, PAS POUR ENNUYER Tatoeba. Faites quelque chose, si possible, s'il vous plaît! Ayez pitié de notre langue qui a failli disparaître !
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CK
CK
17 days ago - 17 days ago
As someone who uses the Tatoeba Corpus for a publicly usable educational website, I don't really find it a problem to credit tatoeba.org as the source of the data I use. If I limited my use to only sentences released under CC0 (public domain), the data wouldn't be of very much use to me. I think this is also true for others who use the Tatoeba Corpus.

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JeanM
17 days ago
Having worked for a few companies (large and small) that do work in machine learning, I can say that the situation for them is often a little different. I am not a lawyer myself, but the following is based on my first-hand experience.

If a researcher/engineer at one of those companies wants to do some work which uses a dataset, the company's legal team must review the dataset's license. Legal teams love public domain data, because it makes their job easy. Even very liberal licenses that impose requirements (such as the Attribution part of CC BY) or which are written in foreign languages with foreign legal systems in mind (such as CC BY 2.0 FR) make the lawyers' work harder, and will take longer to get approval or may just be denied. Especially if the researcher wants to use a bunch of different datasets, each with its own license.

Now for major languages like French or Japanese, I as a researcher can make a business case for getting the lawyers to spend the extra time reviewing 10 licenses in 10 different jurisdictions: the company has lots of customers speaking those languages, and so better support for them will generate extra revenue. If we're talking about a minority language though, which might make a few people happy and help preserve a culture but is unlikely to make the company any money whatsoever, things are different. Chances are that, unless the dataset is in the public domain or under a license that has already been tested in the local legal system, getting approval will be much harder.

In an ideal world companies would be ok with going through a few extra hoops to support a minority language, but in reality only few places will be willing to do that. This is why I feel wide CC0 support is key – not because I want to make corporations' lives easier per se, but for the sake of communities which speak endangered languages and want to ensure their work is as widely accessible as possible.

Having said that, regardless of whether something like this gets implemented in the future or not, I'd like to say a big thank you to all the Tatoeba admins, community, and developers for the great work they've put into this project. It's pretty amazing what you've all achieved.
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AmarMecheri
15 days ago - 15 days ago
@JeanM
Not only I do appreciate the fact that you have raised the problem and explained all aspects of it, but I am also grateful to you for having grasped and defended our primary concern for safeguarding our language that we have had great difficulty in resurrect and preserve against absolutism. Big thanks!
 @JeanM
Non seulement j'apprécie le fait que vous ayez soulevé le problème et expliqué tous les aspects de celui-ci, mais je vous suis également reconnaissant d'avoir compris et défendu notre souci premier de préserver notre langue que nous avons eu beaucoup de mal à ressusciter et à préserver contre l'absolutisme. Grand merci!
AmarMecheri
17 days ago
@CK
Merci pour votre réponse.
Même si cela ne résout pas le problème que j'ai posé, à la suite des remarques judicieuses des @JeanM, je comprends qu'il soit du devoir de l'initiateur que vous êtes, de défendre l'intégrité de Tatoeba. Ce site auquel je continue d'apporter ma contribution vaille que vaille, par égard pour des personnes respectables comme vous.
Thank you for your reply.
Even if that does not solve the problem I posed, following the judicious remarks of @JeanM, I understand that it is the duty of the initiator you are, to defend the integrity of Tatoeba. This site to which I continue to make my contribution whatever comes, for the sake of respectable people like you.
gillux
17 days ago
Je comprends votre frustration. Pour répondre à la question du « pourquoi », la raison est que personne n’a encore travaillé à améliorer ça. Il se trouve que très peu de personnes travaillent sur Tatoeba et il y a des tonnes et des tonnes d’autres choses à améliorer et d’autres problèmes à corriger (dont certains bien plus critiques, qui rendent par exemple le site inaccessible).

Il existe une solution pour réduire l’inconfort en attendant que la situation s’améliore. Vous pouvez créer des phrases en CC-BY pendant un certain temps (par exemple une journée), puis changer la licence de toutes vos phrases CC-BY en CC0 d’un coup d’un seul, en allant sur la page https://tatoeba.org/licensing/switch_my_sentences
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PaulP
17 days ago
> puis changer la licence de toutes vos phrases CC-BY en CC0 d’un coup d’un seul, en allant sur la page https://tatoeba.org/licensing/switch_my_sentences

C'est drôle. Chez moi ce lien conduit à la page d'entrée (https://tatoeba.org)
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gillux
17 days ago
Oui. Comme cette fonctionnalité est encore en développement, elle est pour le moment seulement accessible à certaines personnes qui souhaitent publier leurs phrases sous licence CC0. Si vous souhaitez vous aussi avoir y accès, demandez à un administrateur.
AmarMecheri
17 days ago
@gillux
Merci infiniment pour votre réponse, à la fois, très constructive, explicite et utile. Ça me va droit au coeur!
C'est grâce à des personnes comme vous, qui se consacrent sans rechigner, à la bonne marche de TATOEBA, que je continue à contribuer malgré certaines difficultés de compréhension avec certains pontes.
J'essaierai de concrétiser vos suggestions.
Encore merci.
Au plaisir de vous lire!
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TRANG
16 days ago
Je voudrais aussi ajouter que de la même manière qu'il est actuellement possible de migrer toutes vos phrases originales vers CC0, il sera possible un jour de migrer toutes vos traductions éligibles vers CC0, en un seul clic.

Donc à moins que vous soyez dans l'urgence, ne vous ennuyez pas à créer les phrases séparément pour les lier ensuite. Contribuez normalement, et attendez simplement qu'on implémente la fonctionnalité.

J'ai créé un ticket sur GitHub à ce sujet: https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1858

Je ne dis pas que ce sera implémenté d'ici tôt car comme gillux l'a fait remarqué, il y a énormément de boulot sur Tatoeba et très peu de resources. Mais les choses finissent par avancer, il faut juste être patient.
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AmarMecheri
15 days ago
@Trang
Vous m'en voyez ravi et je vous remercie, ainsi que @gillux, @JeanM, @CK et tous ceux parmi le staff qui contribuent aux améliorations de Tatoeba.
Je suis content que vous ayez tous deux compris mes préoccupations.
Je suis très patient et j'attendrai car j'accorde toute ma confiance à votre site, que j'ai fait mien.
Salutations cordiales.
TRANG
19 days ago
> I'd be curious to hear what people think about the following feature suggestion:
> allow users to release *any* personal contribution under CC0, even if it's e.g. a
> translation of a sentence that's under CC-BY 2.0 FR.

I can tell you this is not a legal risk I would take. By doing that, we would be making the statement that a derivative work should be completely independent from the original work in terms of intellectual property. I don't think we stand a chance if we wanted to defend that point of view. At least I wouldn't be able to defend it.
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JeanM
19 days ago
Oh I'm not suggesting the translation as a whole be released under CC0 regardless of the underlying sentence's license. I don't think that would stand, as you say. I'm suggesting something that is subtly different.

Example scenario: You write a sentence, and I translate it.

What I'm proposing is to make a distinction between:
(1) your underlying sentence, which is your own (copyright-protected) expressive creation;
(2) and my translation, which is a combination of my own expressive creation and yours.

I am further suggesting that you allow users to license their own expressive creations under CC0, if they so desire.

This might seem silly because how can one possibly take my translation and "separate" my expressive creation from yours? Obviously users of the translation will still need to abide by the license imposed by you. However, I can think of at least two scenarios where allowing a distinction between the two separate expressive creations would be useful:

(1) Imagine you license an original sentence under CC BY, I translate it, but I don't actually care about being credited myself for the translation. I should then be able to state that I do not wish to impose any further restrictions on the translation, other than the ones which already exist on the underlying work. This would mean that users of the translation would only have to abide by the CC BY license of the underlying work. Compare this to the current situation, where translators are essentially forced to apply extra restrictions to the translations they contribute (in the form of an extra CC BY license), on top of the conditions that already exist on the underlying sentence.

So basically, the current sitation is:
TRANG's sentence released under CC BY + JeanM's contribution released under CC-BY = JeanM's translation of TRANG's sentence, released under TRANG and JeanM's CC BY licenses *simultaneously*.

And what I think would be quite neat is to make this possible:
TRANG's sentence released under CC BY + JeanM's contribution released under CC0 = JeanM's translation of TRANG's sentence, released under TRANG's CC BY license *only*.

(2) Imagine you contribute loads of original sentences under CC BY, and I translate all of them. At a future point in time, you decide to relicense the original sentences under CC0. I would actually have been fine with releasing the translations under CC0 – but because of the interface, I actually had to apply an *additional* CC BY license to the translations. Then I get run over by a bus / I disappear from the face of the Internet, and so the translations are stuck with the CC BY license. Had I been allowed to state "my own expressive creations are released under CC0" then, once you relicensed your sentences under CC0, the translations would also have been automatically relicensed under the more permissive CC0.

Apologies for the wordiness, and I hope I managed to explain myself more clearly.

My own personal motivation for releasing as much as possible under CC0 is that I am a speaker of an endangered language, and I want to impose as few burdens as possible on potential users of the data I create. I am basically desperate for companies/researchers to use data in my language, and I know that many companies will prefer data the under CC0. (Incidentally, that's also the license required for text in Mozilla Common Voice)
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TRANG
19 days ago
Okay, I understand better. In fact you want a way to automatically switch the license of your translations to CC0 whenever possible.

Or you want a license that basically says "My derivative work will be automatically re-licensed to the most permissive license possible if the original work is re-licensed to a more permissive license". I don't think such a license has been created.

But I guess you could publish somewhere that you wish to have all your contributions released under CC0 when possible and you allow Tatoeba to change the license of your translations to CC0 without having to ask you. That might be enough.

Hopefully we will implement the possibility to switch the license of translations in a not too far future, and hopefully you'll still be around by then.
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JeanM
19 days ago
> Or you want a license that basically says "My derivative work will be automatically re-licensed to the most permissive license possible if the original work is re-licensed to a more permissive license". I don't think such a license has been created.

Yeah that's pretty much it. I think that can be achieved by simply stating that you release your contribution (and only your contribution – not the derivative work as a whole) under CC0, but I may be wrong as I am not a lawyer.

> But I guess you could publish somewhere that you wish to have all your contributions released under CC0 when possible

I already have a sentence on my profile to that effect, yes. In fact I've noticed a few other users with similar statements.

> Hopefully we will implement the possibility to switch the license of translations in a not too far future, and hopefully you'll still be around by then.

Nice! Until then, I'll make sure to look both ways whenever I cross the street.
AmarMecheri
18 days ago
The question is ill-posed, it seems to me. For example, I write my own Kabyle sentences under CCO 1.0 and translate them myself into French and English. In all three languages, they are mine and they are original. Why am I CONTRATING to (Why am I obliged to -) specify the nature of the CCO 1.0 license each time?
La question est mal posée, il me semble. Par exemple, j'écris mes propres phrases en kabyle sous CCO 1.0 et je les traduis moi-même en français et en anglais. Dans les trois langues, ce sont les miennes et elles sont originales. Pourquoi suis-je CONTRAINT de préciser la nature de la licence CCO 1.0, à chaque fois?
Thanuir
16 days ago
How to change all of my eligible sentences to CC0?

I have the permission to change my sentences to CC0 and have successfully done it to individual sentences. However, it is cumbersome to find them and do the change manually.

The wiki at https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...contributions# claims that there is a way of changing all of my original sentences to CC0. Does it exist and, if so, where?
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gillux
16 days ago
The page is: https://tatoeba.org/licensing/switch_my_sentences

I updated the wiki page, thank you.

Beware that this feature is still under development. Feedback is welcome.
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Thanuir
16 days ago
Merci beaucoup!
TRANG
16 days ago
The link is also in the private message I sent you after granting you access to the CC0 feature.
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Thanuir
16 days ago
Sorry, I must have missed that.
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TRANG
16 days ago
Don't worry, you are probably not the only. At least I know that for the next users who request CC0 access, I'll need somehow to make this link look more important in my response message :)
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Thanuir
16 days ago
Adding the link to settings or sentences page of those who are in the CC0 club might be a good move.
sharptoothed
19 days ago
** Stats & Graphs **

Tatoeba Stats, Graphs & Charts have been updated:
https://tatoeba.j-langtools.com/allstats/
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Guybrush88
18 days ago
thanks :)
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sharptoothed
18 days ago
you're welcome :-)
CK
CK
19 days ago - 19 days ago
We now have over 400,000 English sentences with audio.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/audio/index/eng
Sentences in English with audio (total 400,009)
2019-04-01 01:53 UTC

You can browse the latest audio files and see translations with this link.
https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/4000/und
AmarMecheri
19 days ago
Hi there!
@JeanM
Exactly ... and more! I totally agree with you.
More ... I do not understand ... why when I give variants of MY OWN PHRASES under CCO 1.0 (still in Kabyle or translated by myself to French and English) ... why I have to click ... again ... to specify CCO 1.0, otherwise they are displayed in CC-BY 2.0 FR. While ALL MY PHRASES ARE MINE....
belkacem77
20 days ago
Welcome to Tamahaqt.

Tamahaqt Tahagart (Tatergit n uheggar) has just been added by Taoteba. Thanks the the tech team and especiallay @Ricardo and Aissa Mahfoudh who is working on Tamahaqt language.

We will do the best to share in info with the Tamahaqt speakers to create bridges between Berber (Amazigh) languages but also with the whole world languages.

For information, Tamahaqt is a Berber language. About 200 000 people in the South of Algeria (but also Mali, Niger, Libya, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, Senegal, and Tchad) are still speaking it.

Again, Welcome to Tamahaqt.
CK
CK
21 days ago
Stats - 2019-03-30 - Native Speaker Sentence Counts

http://tatoeba.byethost3.com/stats-190330.html

Find out members' native languages.
CK
CK
23 days ago
All Tags on One Page

http://tatoeba.byethost3.com/st...0323-tags.html

Total Number of Tags: 6,878
Total Number of Tags on Sentences: 1,398,497

Created from data exported on 2019-03-23.
I also included a column showing you when the tag was created.

This is likely to be a faster way to browse through all tag names than https://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/view_all .
There's a small chance that it won't work on less powerful computers,


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driini
21 days ago
Would it be helpful if a sentence is tagged in one laguage, that the direct translations have a similar tag?
Or like the links "an indirect tag"?
For sure it's not possible or useful for all tags but maybe for some "grammar" issues or "topics" or "sources"?
We could translate the tags to make sure that no language is preferred.
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CK
CK
21 days ago
>Would it be helpful if a sentence is tagged in one laguage, that the direct translations have a similar tag?

Perhaps what you want is already possible using the advanced search.
Here is a way to find German sentences that are linked to sentences tagged "restaurant."

https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...ags=restaurant


> We could translate the tags to make sure that no language is preferred.

At this time, ...

"Tag names are to be written in English. For an explanation of this policy, along with further notes, see Trang's tag guidelines from 2010.(Use English for tags, unless you really can't)"

https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/articles/show/tags
TRANG
25 days ago - 25 days ago
Currently on the "Browse by language" page[1] we display all sentences in a given language. If we display instead only the 1000 (or 10000) latest sentences, would it affect you?

If yes, please let me know how you are using this page and why you need to go to pages above 100.

Same question for the "Comments" page[2] and the "Logs of {user}" page[3].

Thank you!

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[1] https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...ll_in/jpn/none
[2] https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence_comments/index
[3] https://tatoeba.org/eng/contrib.../of_user/TRANG
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raggione
25 days ago
no objection
Ricardo14
25 days ago - 21 days ago
no objection.
AlanF_US
25 days ago
No objection.
Guybrush88
25 days ago
No problems with that. Whenever I need more, I simply use the advanced search feature.
cojiluc
25 days ago
small suggestion: if possible, clicking or pressing a flag, results in visiting the corresponding language link on the "browse by language" page.
soliloquist
25 days ago
> Same question for the "Comments" page[2] and the "Logs of {user}" page[3].

Comparing to the other limitation (1000 or 10000 latest sentences), 2 or 3 pages seem low to me.

A while ago, I noticed an advanced contributor unlinking sentences of other users without leaving comments. I needed to check that user's logs several pages to look for suspicious unlinkings. Unless there's a better way to view unlinking activities, I suggest not to limit the logs page.
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TRANG
25 days ago
> 2 or 3 pages seem low to me

The [2] and [3] are references to the links at the bottom of my message. It wasn't meant to say that page limit would be 2 pages and 3 pages.

In general we would put 1000 results as a limit. We could consider increasing it to 10,000 results, depending on feedback. With 1000 results, that would be:
- 20 pages for the comments (there are 50 comments per page)
- 5 pages for the logs (there are 200 logs per page)

When you check the user's log, do you remember how far you checked? 10th page? 100th page?

In any case, for that situation, you can always report the user to admins if you cannot manage to evaluate if his activity is normal or suspicious. Then we can investigate further.

Technically if you have some programming knowledge, you could also extract and analyze the data from the contributions.csv that we export: https://downloads.tatoeba.org/e...utions.tar.bz2
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soliloquist
25 days ago
> The [2] and [3] are references to the links at the bottom of my message. It wasn't meant to say that page limit would be 2 pages and 3 pages.

Sorry, I missed that.

>In general we would put 1000 results as a limit. We could consider increasing it to 10,000 results, depending on feedback.

I think that would be sufficient for comments and logs, too.
AlanF_US
24 days ago
There are times when I want to know how many results there are for a search, even if I don't want to look at all of them. I'm hoping that we can continue to display the count in addition to the pages, as we do for advanced search. For instance, searching for occurrences of the word "good" in English gives a page with this heading:

Advanced search (1000 results out of 15694 occurrences)

while searching for occurrences of "excellent" in English gives a page with this heading:

Advanced search (366 results)

Can we display this "X results out of Y occurrences" information for the pages you mentioned? Or would displaying the count significantly counteract the savings we would get by limiting the number of pages of results?
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TRANG
23 days ago
> Can we display this "X results out of Y occurrences" information for the pages you
> mentioned?

For the "Browse by language" page, yes, there are plans to keep the total number of sentences.

For the comments, I didn't plan to keep the count, but it shouldn't be a problem to do so. Is it an important number for you though?

For the logs, there was never a count and there is no plan to add it, unless you can think of a situation where that number is useful.

I have written my suggestions regarding how to update the titles of the pages in this GitHub issue:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...ment-476564743

> Or would displaying the count significantly counteract the savings we would get by
> limiting the number of pages of results?

Generally speaking, there's a relatively easy solution for displaying the count on large sets of results: have a script that can initialize the count, store this number somewhere and then increment/decrement the number when needed. That's what we do for the number of sentences in each language, or the number of audio. That's also what we do for the number of sentences in a list. And that's what we would do if the number of comments or the number of log entries was an important information to know.

So no, displaying the count wouldn't slow down the display of the page if we implement this count caching mechanism. The main issue with this solution is that the count might be wrong sometimes. Either because we forgot to update the count for a particular use case, or because there's a bug that prevented the update of the count.
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AlanF_US
21 days ago
> For the comments, I didn't plan to keep the count, but it shouldn't be a problem to do so. Is it an important number for you though?

Not that important. It's just interesting to see how many comments a user has made, but the information loses importance when the number gets large. There's a lot of difference between someone making 0 or 100 comments, but not much between someone making 1000 or 10,000.
CK
CK
24 days ago - 24 days ago
** For Comments

Would this also mean 1,000 comments when limited to one language, like the following link or just the comments on that language's sentences within the last 1,000 comments?

Comments limited to those on English sentences
https://tatoeba.org/eng/SentenceComments/index/eng

If this one is 1,000, too, then I don't see any problem with the limit.


I think NOT limiting the following would be a good idea.

Comments on sentences by a certain member.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc..._of_user/TRANG

Comments made by a certain member.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc.../of_user/TRANG



** For Browsing

A limit of 1,000 for the most recent contributions wouldn't be a problem. My guess is that it could even as low as 200, since by using the advanced search, we can duplicate something similar up to 1,000 results, and fine-tune better ways to browse.

Examples:

The last 1,000 Portuguese sentences
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...r&sort=created

The last 1,000 Japanese sentences by members claiming to be native speakers
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...ted&native=yes

The last 1,000 German sentences with audio
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...&has_audio=yes

The last 1,000 French sentences by TRANG
https://tatoeba.org/sentences/s...G&sort=created

The last 1,000 Spanish sentences by arh with audio that have no translations into any language
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...&has_audio=yes

The last 1,000 English sentences on List 907 that have no translations into any language
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...eated&list=907

The last 1,000 Russian sentences, showing English translations if there are any.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=rus&to=eng



The main difference is that the searches are actually the last "indexed" sentences, so there is a slight delay before the very newest sentences will show up. There is perhaps also a difference in how fast the pages display.


I think NOT limiting links like the following would be a good idea.

(Browse) Translate Chinese sentences by fucongcong
https://tatoeba.org/eng/activit...fucongcong/cmn



** For Logs

I very seldom look at these. My only purpose is usually just to find out when the last time a member did something on the website, so the "show latest activity" link is the one I usually click.

Show logs
https://tatoeba.org/eng/contrib.../of_user/TRANG

Show latest activity
https://tatoeba.org/eng/users/show/5


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TRANG
23 days ago
> Would this also mean 1,000 comments when limited to one language

Yes.
sabretou
24 days ago
No objection.
driini
21 days ago
I didn't know this search [1]
Till now I collect all my kirundi sentences in lists up to exactly 1000 sentences to be sure to reach them later (for tagging them someday).

And for me it's very helpful to see this
"Advanced search (1000 results out of 15694 occurrences)" Alan was talking of
to know how much I have to fine-tune my search when I'm looking for sentences to translate from a list.