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boracasli boracasli September 2, 2010 at 6:37 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:37 PM link Permalink

What should I not do in Launchpad?
I'm using Google Translate in translating Ubuntu.
But I hate Launchpad.
Mark Shuttleworth can know afrikaans because he was born in Welkom, an afrikaans speaking region.
I can translate Ubuntu to any language with Google Translate?

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sysko sysko September 2, 2010 at 6:40 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:40 PM link Permalink

http://ubuntuforums.org/ for questions about ubuntu:)

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boracasli boracasli September 2, 2010 at 6:43 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:43 PM link Permalink

But I don't know the launchpad threads
What OS that you and Trang use?

boracasli boracasli September 2, 2010 at 6:44 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:44 PM link Permalink

If you use Linux, what distribution?

boracasli boracasli September 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:35 PM link Permalink

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/483463
Please delete this Icelandic sentence, please do not delete the english and turkish ones.

carlos1516 carlos1516 September 2, 2010 at 1:57 PM September 2, 2010 at 1:57 PM link Permalink

Espero ser util y que me sea de utilidad este proyecto.
Gracias por ayudarnos a comprendernos mejor como seres humanos.

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Pharamp Pharamp September 2, 2010 at 4:11 PM September 2, 2010 at 4:11 PM link Permalink

Bienvenidooooo, Carlos! :D :D

boracasli boracasli September 2, 2010 at 2:44 PM September 2, 2010 at 2:44 PM link Permalink

When Lithuanian, Thai, Quechua, Croatian, Bosnian and Azerbaijani added?

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sysko sysko September 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM September 2, 2010 at 2:53 PM link Permalink

For Quechua and Azerbaijani, they will be added when we will have enough sentences which DO NOT come from copyrighted sources. For the others, they will be added when I will have fix something in the database. Moreover in the future can you avoid add sentences in language you do not speak. Tatoeba goal is to offer natural sentences, added by native, or people who can be considered as native by natives. The goal is not to have million of sentences in hundreds languages if this mean "machine translation" quality, because then tatoeba will be less useful than google translate or other automatic translation website.

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boracasli boracasli September 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:30 PM link Permalink

when the new languages added?
in latest two week you do not added any language.

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sysko sysko September 2, 2010 at 6:32 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:32 PM link Permalink

It seems that neither me nor Trang are paid to do this, which mean we're doing this on our freetime, if we are busy in our private life, or solving bugs, then we have less time to implement things. Nothing more to add to this.

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boracasli boracasli September 2, 2010 at 6:37 PM September 2, 2010 at 6:37 PM link Permalink

What should I not do in Launchpad?
I'm using Google Translate in translating Ubuntu.
But I hate Launchpad.
Mark Shuttleworth can know afrikaans because he was born in Welkom, an afrikaans speaking region.
I can translate Ubuntu to any language with Google Translate?

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Swift Swift September 2, 2010 at 8:48 PM September 2, 2010 at 8:48 PM link Permalink

> I can translate Ubuntu to any language with Google Translate?

No, don't translate anything with Google Translate! Don't trust a machine to translate human languages any more than you'd trust a person to translate a file from one binary format to another.

Google Translate can be a very useful crutch, but it's just that and nothing more.

Pharamp Pharamp September 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM September 2, 2010 at 8:50 PM link Permalink

No, you must not.
Google Translator isn't a human, and it's extremely bad to use it everywhere, here on Tatoeba, or in Launchpad.
But as you're a Turkish native speaker, you can use your own skills to translate Ubuntu in Turkish.

Pharamp Pharamp September 2, 2010 at 8:53 PM September 2, 2010 at 8:53 PM link Permalink

As I said you some days ago, you should wait, as everyone is doing now.
Languages will be available as soon as possible - and this doesn't indicate a day, a month or a year.
Just be patient please.

Swift Swift September 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM September 1, 2010 at 6:51 PM link Permalink

** Problem playing sound files **

When I click on the icon to play sound files on sentences that have them, my browser complains about missing plugins. The onclick event on the anchor tag is set to "return false", disabling the link, but I couldn't see how it triggered the plugin.

However it's done, is this a feature to bypass the browser querying the user for a program to handle the file? Any chance I can convince our dear devs that it's a bug?

Sound file example: http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/333392

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CK CK September 2, 2010 at 2:18 AM, edited October 26, 2019 at 4:03 AM September 2, 2010 at 2:18 AM, edited October 26, 2019 at 4:03 AM link Permalink

[not needed anymore- removed by CK]

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Swift Swift September 2, 2010 at 2:43 AM September 2, 2010 at 2:43 AM link Permalink

Actually, I had a quick chat with sysko on IRC. Tatoeba creates an object which my browser doesn't know how to handle. The audio file link works fine for me, but the link is disabled with the onclick event.

Sysko furthermore said that they were going to move to use the audio tag. I threw together an an example implementation that can be found here:
http://martin.swift.is/tatoeba/audio.html

sysko sysko September 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM September 2, 2010 at 9:46 AM link Permalink

The forbidden error is due to a problem which occurs yesterday soon after I leave home for a diner (murphy law I hate you)

aandrusiak aandrusiak September 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM September 1, 2010 at 10:27 PM link Permalink

Why aren't Tatoeba phrases indexed by Google? Can't find them by googling.

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CK CK September 2, 2010 at 2:07 AM, edited October 26, 2019 at 4:04 AM September 2, 2010 at 2:07 AM, edited October 26, 2019 at 4:04 AM link Permalink

[not needed anymore- removed by CK]

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aandrusiak aandrusiak September 2, 2010 at 8:54 AM September 2, 2010 at 8:54 AM link Permalink

Cool!!
thx

blay_paul blay_paul September 1, 2010 at 10:36 PM September 1, 2010 at 10:36 PM link Permalink

Actually they are, but obviously they aren't all indexed instantly.

saeb saeb September 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM September 1, 2010 at 10:48 PM link Permalink

I think they are, but a lot of the sentences here are very generic so searching for them using google will return millions of results...and tatoeba mostly likely won't be on the first few hundred pages

but you can set up the right parameters for google to find pages on tatoeba, for example
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&sa...3f5060d8dfcee5

aandrusiak aandrusiak September 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM September 1, 2010 at 11:02 AM link Permalink

There are so many doubled phrases! Wpuld there be a way to fix it?

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blay_paul blay_paul September 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM September 1, 2010 at 11:32 AM link Permalink

There are a lot of near-duplicates. Especially in the English / Japanese sentences. However duplicates are only removed when they are exact duplicates. This is a policy decision based on the usefulness for language analysis tools, among other reasons.

In the long term it may be possible to tag near duplicates and optionally filter the data to not show them.

sysko sysko September 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM September 1, 2010 at 11:33 AM link Permalink

In a specific language? In normal time we have a script we run from time to time which merge duplicate, as for ressource reason, we can't have a real time check. But I don't think it's more than a hundred of duplicate, over the 500 000 sentences.

adjusting adjusting September 1, 2010 at 5:08 AM September 1, 2010 at 5:08 AM link Permalink

Someone might want to look into the mess that doanhuong made.

aandrusiak aandrusiak August 31, 2010 at 11:39 PM August 31, 2010 at 11:39 PM link Permalink

How do I add a new language on the menu?

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saeb saeb August 31, 2010 at 11:48 PM August 31, 2010 at 11:48 PM link Permalink

if you mean request a language to be added to tatoeba then read about it here: http://tatoeba.org/eng/faq under "I'd like to request a new language."

hope I helped...

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aandrusiak aandrusiak August 31, 2010 at 11:49 PM August 31, 2010 at 11:49 PM link Permalink

Oh, thanks!

adjusting adjusting August 31, 2010 at 8:12 PM August 31, 2010 at 8:12 PM link Permalink

Sometimes the system thinks a Chinese sentence is written in simplified characters, when it's actually in traditional. This causes the pinyin to get messed up. (See http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/400579 for example) Is there a way to manually tell it what kind of characters you're using?

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sysko sysko August 31, 2010 at 10:58 PM August 31, 2010 at 10:58 PM link Permalink

http://tatoeba.org/fre/wall/sho...6#message_2086 :)