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Denizar Denizar February 2, 2010 February 2, 2010 at 2:39:34 PM UTC link Permalink

Are the moderators planning to add sound support for sentences in the future? I am very curios. I don't think its necesarry, but it would definitely kick things up a notch!

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sysko sysko February 2, 2010 February 2, 2010 at 6:13:58 PM UTC link Permalink

it's planned (like a lots of things :D) but for the moment i can't give you a precise date, but yeah we will also really enjoy providing people the possibility to hear what they read. And we're eager to hear our dear contributors' voice.

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eoi eoi February 3, 2010 February 3, 2010 at 6:28:37 PM UTC link Permalink

that's so awesome! love this site.

Denizar Denizar February 2, 2010 February 2, 2010 at 2:40:44 PM UTC link Permalink

curious*

Denizar Denizar February 2, 2010 February 2, 2010 at 6:36:44 PM UTC link Permalink

Wow sounds great! This site is going to be a great hit! Keep up the good work!

Denizar Denizar February 1, 2010 February 1, 2010 at 5:16:18 PM UTC link Permalink

Hi, I just spotted what I believe is an error with the katakana to romanji automatic traslator. チェ translates "CHIE" instead of "CHE". Hope it helps.

Cheers.

bourdu bourdu January 29, 2010 January 29, 2010 at 10:11:51 AM UTC link Permalink

I was just wondering. The corpus is under CC:BY licence but when you're downloading the database dump, there is no way to re-associate a sentence with its original contributors.

Anyway, I guess it could be interesting to know who's contributing on which languages for collaborative translation research purposes.

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TRANG TRANG January 29, 2010 January 29, 2010 at 4:50:57 PM UTC link Permalink

Well, the fact that the corpus is under CC-BY means you have to mention Tatoeba if you are going to reuse it, not that we have to indicate the original contributor in the dump.

It works like this : people provide their work under CC-BY, so the attribution of the work of each user is mentioned in Tatoeba itself, through the logs. But then we're reusing the work of everyone to make something else: the corpus, which we also redistribute under CC-BY.

But now, if you also need to have the username of the original contributor, or any other information that is not provided by default, you can just ask and I'll see what I can do =)

Hautis Hautis January 29, 2010 January 29, 2010 at 8:20:04 AM UTC link Permalink

Hey guys. Finnish in the house.

Love your interface by the way. Great job.

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bourdu bourdu January 29, 2010 January 29, 2010 at 8:22:26 AM UTC link Permalink

Hey, hey! I'm bourdu, collaborating with parent poster to have a finnish-french-english-japanese corpus. Keep up the good job!

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sysko sysko January 29, 2010 January 29, 2010 at 9:23:44 AM UTC link Permalink

Wow seems we have found the Batman and Robin of translations :D

Yep nice to find Finnish active again, it's been a long time without people contributing in this language, so congrats to have already added so many sentences and don't hesitate to report things you find strange / improvement or behaviour which bother you, we're eager to make Tatoeba a better place :)

vbkun vbkun January 19, 2010 January 19, 2010 at 4:30:16 AM UTC link Permalink

Hi, new guy here,

Have you ever considered adding Brazilian Portuguese language?
Brazilians and Portuguese can understand each other pretty well, but the "natural" sounding totally difers between them.

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TRANG TRANG January 20, 2010 January 20, 2010 at 2:05:19 AM UTC link Permalink

Hi vbkun, and welcome :)

We haven't considered adding Brazilian Portuguese, for one thing : because no one requested it. But also, it's not exactly a new language.

I feel it is a problem similar to the distinction between British English and American English. Perhaps the difference is more significant in the case of Portuguese "Brazil vs. Portugal" though, but technically, it is still considered as the same language...

So right now, the best I solution I can suggest is to add a tag [Brazil] at the end of sentences that are in Brazilian Portuguese.

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vbkun vbkun January 20, 2010 January 20, 2010 at 2:48:11 AM UTC link Permalink

I also don't think it's really a big problem, I was mainlly just worried bout people learning the language VS natural sounding ;).
Because I guess in most cases (maybe 90% of them, or even a bit more) the sentences are understandable for both sides.

Guess I'll then add those tags in my future contributions for pt-br ;)

trotter trotter January 17, 2010 January 17, 2010 at 4:24:52 PM UTC link Permalink

Coquille :


Il n'y a pas (encore) de résultats pour cette recheche mais vous pouvez nous aider à alimenter (...)
=>Il n'y a pas (encore) de résultats pour cette recheRche mais vous pouvez nous aider à alimenter (...)

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TRANG TRANG January 17, 2010 January 17, 2010 at 10:21:27 PM UTC link Permalink

Merci, c'est corrigé.

contour contour January 17, 2010 January 17, 2010 at 5:24:07 AM UTC link Permalink

There are a number of sentences where some words are tagged with weird bracket syntax, like this one;
"There are days where I feel like my {brain}{1} wants to abandon me."
Do these have any meaning to the system, and should they be preserved when adding new translations?

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TRANG TRANG January 17, 2010 January 17, 2010 at 9:28:29 PM UTC link Permalink

No, you don't have to preserve them when adding new translations. They used to be used, and they may be used again someday, but right now they don't mean anything anymore to the system.

You can find a short explaination at the very bottom of this page:
http://tatoeba.org/eng/pages/do...mple-sentences

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nickyeow nickyeow January 19, 2010 January 19, 2010 at 7:27:01 AM UTC link Permalink

Then should they be removed?

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TRANG TRANG January 20, 2010 January 20, 2010 at 1:48:51 AM UTC link Permalink

They should, but not by you. I mean, someday I'll just run a script that will do the work, so don't worry about it :)

I'll also have to backup these sentences somewhere before removing the brackets, because they're still providing information that can be useful someday.

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nickyeow nickyeow January 20, 2010 January 20, 2010 at 11:48:48 PM UTC link Permalink

I see. It'd be so much simpler to run a script than to remove them one by one :)

nickyeow nickyeow January 15, 2010 January 15, 2010 at 4:30:33 PM UTC link Permalink

Looks like there’s something wrong with the Chinese pinyin transliteration... the pinyin of some traditional Chinese characters are not properly displayed :S

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TRANG TRANG January 15, 2010 January 15, 2010 at 5:11:16 PM UTC link Permalink

True. We installed our own pinyin converter and started using it recently, but perhaps the data we used is not complete...

Anyway we switched to the old way so it is now working again for the traditional Chinese characters.

zipangu zipangu January 15, 2010 January 15, 2010 at 4:42:08 PM UTC link Permalink

Hi, how about adding Latin as a separate language? It appears to be a core language for almost all of Europe's languages (from a cultural point of view, of course, not the linguistic one). Latin proverbs and sayings are actually original versions of correspondent idioms in many languages.

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sysko sysko January 15, 2010 January 15, 2010 at 4:44:27 PM UTC link Permalink

As for all other language, we're opened, we just need people adding some sample sentences in this language, as soon as you can provide us around 5 sentences, we can consider adding it.

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zipangu zipangu January 15, 2010 January 15, 2010 at 5:41:29 PM UTC link Permalink

Great, how about:

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/349115
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/349096
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/349347
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/349457
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/349463

As for flag, consider 'SPQR' symbol :)

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human600 human600 January 30, 2010 January 30, 2010 at 9:40:32 PM UTC link Permalink

How about this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Spqrstone.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spqr

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zipangu zipangu January 31, 2010 January 31, 2010 at 7:28:10 PM UTC link Permalink

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking about! Now an icon of 20x30 pix :)

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sysko sysko March 6, 2010 March 6, 2010 at 6:25:57 PM UTC link Permalink

language added, the SPQR file human600 give dit not properly render on 20*30, so we've choosen something else, but if you have something better to propose us, tell us :)

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zipangu zipangu March 6, 2010 March 6, 2010 at 8:28:44 PM UTC link Permalink

Looks great! Thanks!

JeroenHoek JeroenHoek January 12, 2010 January 12, 2010 at 3:02:49 PM UTC link Permalink

Why are the flags made lighter than they are in reality? The Dutch flag now looks exactly like the Luxembourg flag.

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TRANG TRANG January 12, 2010 January 12, 2010 at 6:46:41 PM UTC link Permalink

That's because back at the time when I introduced the flags as the indicator of the language of a sentence, I felt that the real colors were too strong and needed to be lightened a little bit to fit more to the overall colors of the site.

But you're right, it leads to issues such as having a flag of a country looking like the one of another country.

sysko sysko January 12, 2010 January 12, 2010 at 7:01:52 PM UTC link Permalink

But anyway if someday luxembourg language is added, its flag too, and it will look lighter than dutch flag :) (and the contrast between red and blue is kept as the red is also lighter)