Sizinle tanıştığıma çok memnun oldum.
Turkish sentence meaning in English.
I am delighted to have met you.

For what reason can't duplicates be removed automatically by a script?

** Feature suggestion: Sentence linker **

Most of my contributions are translations from English and Danish into Icelandic. I regularly happen upon sentences that seem somewhat familiar.

For example, I will come across a sentence in Danish that I've already translated out of English. Since only direct translations are filtered out in the current language lists, these potential duplicates will occur.

I assume it would be fairly simple (and may even be on the agenda) to implement in the new database version, a list of non-direct links between sentences to allow contributors to link these.

Tatoeba day #2

http://blog.tatoeba.org/2011/01...23rd-2011.html

(...and I'm posting the content below for those who are not able to view the post)

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Tatoeba day #2 (Jan 23rd, 2011)

We have decided of a date for our next Tatoeba day, and it will be January 23rd, 2011. Just like the last Tatoeba day, it will start at 0:00 and will end at 23:59 (France time).

There will be 2 objectives for that day:
- Banners for Tatoeba
- Quality of the corpus


# Banners for Tatoeba

For those who are not sure what I'm talking about, what we call a "banner" is basically an image that represents a website. Let's say you are a fan of Tatoeba and have a personal blog. Because you are very supportive, you would like to put a link to Tatoeba on your blog, and perhaps you would like the link to be graphical rather than simple text. Well, we don't really have any standard image for people to use in such situations and we'd like to create some.

So we're organizing a little contest for our contributors with artistic/design skills (or who just want to give it a try): create banners for Tatoeba!

Everyone can participate and if you want to, here's what to do or to know:
1) Make 2 images with the following sizes: 88x31 and 392x72. You may re-use our current logo in it, but don't hesitate to make another (better) logo if you are inspired.
2) Send your 2 images to trang@tatoeba.fr with the title "Tatoeba banners" and indicate in the email your Tatoeba username. I will reply you back to confirm that I have received them.
3) The current deadline is January 23rd, 13:00 (France time). However, we will need at the very least 5 submissions, otherwise it's not very intersting :P I do hope there will be more than 5, but if there isn't been enough submissions, we will extend the deadline to the next Tatoeba day: February 20th, same time.
4) Shortly after the deadline I will publish the banners that were sent to me. Then Tatoeba users will have one week to vote for their favorite banners. I'm not sure yet how we will do the votes but I will write about it in due time. NOTE: I don't want people to be influenced by "who made the banner" during the vote so I will not indicate this information when I first publish the banners. I will ask you as well to keep your work "secret" the whole time (don't show it to anyone and don't say "I did this one").
5) Once the votes are over, I will reveal the participants and announce the winner who will then be venerated forever by everyone for his/her talent :)


# Quality of the corpus

Since Tatoeba is open for everyone to contribute, one of its biggest problem is quality. Contributors aren't necessarily professionals and we inevitably have many sentences that contain mistakes or don't sound right. For our 2nd Tatoeba day, we will be focusing on quality. The goal of the day will be to check, correct and improve as many sentences as possible.

We've got plenty of sentences sentences tagged "@Needs Native Check", "@change" and "@check", and it would be really nice to remove as many of these tags as possible to replace them with the 'OK' tag. We've also got plenty of orphan sentences that desperately need parents.

If you want to participate, don't be shy and join our IRC channel #tatoeba on January 23rd (cf. our help page to learn how to use IRC, in case you are not familiar with IRC). This way you can discuss in real time with other members about what to do with a sentence (among other things)!

The next day, I will be publishing the following stats:
- The number of sentences modified.
- The number of comments posted.
- The number of sentences tagged 'OK'.
- The approximate number of sentences adopted.

I'll be honest though, things might be a little disorganized at first. I don't know yet how many people intend to participate and I don't how yet how we will coordinate with each other to work efficiently together. But this second Tatoeba will be the occasion to experiment and hopefully figure out something :)

NOTE: You may want to read these articles to learn a bit more about how we handle quality, even though they are not up-to-date anymore:
http://blog.tatoeba.org/search/label/validation

Willkommen bei Tatoeba koitsu.

Why do the "adopt sentences" and "improve sentences" pages not have the same features as the "browse by language" page. It would be great to have the filtering optinos there too.

I would also suggest, that when opening the "adopt sentences" page it would suggest you to adopt sentences in the languages you (probably) speak and not always suggest chinese sentences to non chinese speakers. As for now the users cant define what languages they speak (what i think would be nice for the future) one could at least suggest sentences in the language of the user interface one is using (the dropdown in the upper right).

Maybe we could "guess" the languages and their level of proficiency by the number of sentences added or owned by a user.

Jemand, der Japanisch versteht, möge bitte mal diese Deutschen Sätze durchsehen, die unnatürliches bis fehlerhaftes Deutsch sind. Ohne Japanischkenntnisse kann man leider nur raten, welche Verbesserungen der japanische Satz zulässt:

http://tatoeba.org/deu/sentences/show/590172
http://tatoeba.org/deu/sentences/show/590142
http://tatoeba.org/deu/sentences/show/590127
hier vielleicht "aufheben" statt "behalten"?: http://tatoeba.org/deu/sentences/show/590121

As Ludoviko asked me in a thread about the progress of the new version, and yep it's true I don't communicate a lot about the progress (except always saying "well it will be possible in the new version) so basically

The sentence database is somewhat finish, and debugged (memory leak etc.) thanks to the help of Qdii. So what's already possible with it
* view all the translations of one sentence (even the 20th degree translation), so it will be no more a problem in the next version of tatoeba
* real time detection of duplicate (even when correcting a sentence) so here again
* perfomance improvement, if we only talk about sentence+translation retrieving (not talking about html generation etc.) it's very damn fast now, kinda 10 000 time faster for the complex queries we make in tatoeba, so here again I hope it will fix the "well i don't plan to add this or that feature because the server is already over busy"

Framework / website itself

I've said it on my twitter, we're moving from cakephp to a c++ framework, during some time we tought about django, but well seems me and biptaste are not made for this and django will have not solve the performance issue. It took us some times to started to be confident with it and set up the general architecture. But now it starts to works fine and we're going to reimplment pages now (that's one of the reason I didn't talk too much about it, because for the moment the progress we've made was mainly code stuff, so nothing "visual" tough it represent a huge part of the work)
For the geeks among us who're wondering if write tatoeba in c++ with an "obscure" framework is not some stupid decision that only increase the developping time, I will say no, in fact not so much.
1 - anyway we were about to learn a new framework, so I think an important part of the development time is spend into understanding the framework rather than "typing code", and even if the community for this framework is very small, it has one subtil advantage, the main/only developer is really accessible so we can ask him directly questions about our personnal problem, he's very reactive and we can be sure of the reliability of his answer (after all it's his project:p)
2 - As I've said one of the problem of the current Tatoeba is performance, we're not making money on Tatoeba, I'm still a student and Trang used to be, so we don't have money to spend on renting server etc. so as we're developing it for free, for fun, "how many times" we spend in developing it is not an issue, the real issue is hardware, so improving by 2 the perfomance means we can handle 2 more time users without needing new hardware / needing to spent more money (tough for the moment we're kindly host by the French FSF, but well they don't have illimited ressource, and we don't want to abuse of it). So making it now in c++ will assure us we will not need to do that in the future, so I think on the long term it will save us time/money

Also need to add that now all the feature we will add will have an api counterpart, so it will ease development of third party application using tatoeba.

So it's where we are so far, not so much "visual" stuff to present, but the motor is already on a good way, and i think it was the most difficult / "not rewarding" part. Oh forget to say we also spend some times to set up some collaborativ tools as a redmine, a git repository etc. on my server,


For the moment as I think the 3 main feature of "no limit in depth translation" and "real time duplicate detection", and "speed up" are the current 3 major problem of tatoeba. The first release of the new version will maybe bring nothing more new (except some little improvement there and there), so don't wait huge difference or brand new features. But after that we will be able to have a more frequent release cycle which will introduce new features one by one / integrate
all the request all of you made on the wall / emails
So real time research / problem with tag autocompletion will maybe part of the first new release, but if they're not they will appears in the following weeks after this first release.

For more technicals details, I think i really need to start a "what's behind tatoeba" blog, to talk about geek stuffs ^^

I am a trusted user, but I cannot remove "@needs native check" tags when I correct sentences for my mother tongue German. I can add the "OK" tag, but how do I remove tags?

I'd like to be able to edit comments. Otherwise, we commit egreigus typs lik this onesa or forget something important in a cultural note and we have to blow the whole thing off and start again or just let it stand.