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[eng]About adding new languages:
First I really want to say I'm sorry to haven't found time these last months to add new languages, next week I will have a one week holiday so I will try my best to add all of them, in order to make the task faster, can you put here as a reply to this message, the language you requested to be added with this format
language name in english :
iso code :
a link to a picture that you want me to use for the interface (country flag, or if you prefer, simply the ISO code on a white background , or whatever color you want)
link to the list/tag containing the sentences you've already added
for example :
name: Esperanto
iso code : epo
flag : http://flagartist.com/FLAGARTIS..._esperanto.svg
this way I hope that at the end of the first week of April I would have added most of them
[epo] Pri aldoni lingvojn :
Unue, mi vere volas diri ke mi bedauxras ne esti trovinta tempon dum la lastaj monatoj por aldoni novajn lingvojn. Dum la baldauxa semajno mi havos ferion, do mi provos plej eble aldoni cxiujn. Por plirapidigi la taskon, cxu vi povas meti, kiel komento al tiu mesagxo, la lingvon kiun vi volas aldoni en tiu formato :
-nomo de la lingvo en la angla
-ISO-kodo
-Ligilo al imago kiu vi volas ke mi uzas por simboli gxin (landoflago aux, se vi preferas, simple ISO-kodo sur blanka fono, aux iu farbo kiun vi deziras)
-Ligilo al la listo/etikedo de frazoj kiu vi jam aldonis
Ekzemple :
name: Esperanto
iso code : epo
flag : http://flagartist.com/FLAGARTIS..._esperanto.svg
Tiel, mi esperas ke cxe la fino de la unua semajno de aprilo, mi estus aldoninta la plejparton de ili.
*** Translation/Traducción/Traduko ***
[spa] Respecto a agregar nuevos idiomas:
Primero, verdaderamente quiero decir que lamento no haber encontrado tiempo durante estos últimos tres meses para agregar nuevos idiomas. La próxima semana tendré unas vacaciones de una semana, así que trataré lo que pueda para agregarlos todos. Para acer más rápida la tarea puedes poner aquí, como respuesta a este mensaje, el idioma que pediste que fuera agregado según este formato:
nombre del idioma en inglés:
código iso:
un enlace a una imagen que quieren que utilice para la interface (bandera del país, o si prefieren, sencillamente el código ISO en un fondo blanco, o cualquier color que quieran)
link a la lista/tag que contiene las frases que ya han agregado
por ejemplo:
name: Esperanto
iso code : epo
flag : http://flagartist.com/FLAGARTIS..._esperanto.svg
de esta manera espero que para el término de la primera semana de abril haya agregado la mayoría de ellos.
name: Kurdish
iso code: kurd
flag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PKK.svg
Espero que lo agregaras pronto .
Lower Sorbian
dsb
http://tatoeba.org/fre/sentences_lists/show/780
Upper Sorbian
hsb
http://tatoeba.org/fre/sentences_lists/show/779
name: Kölsch
iso code: ksh
flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wik...eln_Flagge.gif
http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...ag/K%C3%B6lsch
Name: Welsh
ISO Code: cym
Flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wik...of_Wales_2.svg
List: http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences_lists/show/887
name: Kurdish
iso code: kurd
flag: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PKK.svg
and then after you add Kurdish would you please change all sentences that ive translated with Ainu flag and unkown language into Kurdish.
Please create a "kurdish sentences" list and add all your sentences to that list, because not all the sentences flagged "Ainu" are actually Kurdish...
ISO code: kur
.-.-.
I agree. Especially if the Turkish people see it as a terrorist organization, but I do not know enough about the issue. Perhaps some of our Turk contributers would like to weigh in.
Kurds and Kurdish span several countries : Turkey, Iraq, Syria, Iran, Armenia and Azerbaijan not to mention other countries were there are smaller groups http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fi...nguagesmap.jpg
Kurds are actually the largest ethnic group in the world that doesn't have a country of its own.
I think the choice of their flag for their language is their choice, whether that pleases others or not...
I don't think Mexicans should be consulted as to whether to use the US flag for English...
I knew the idea of a flag to symbolize languages was wrong from the start...
A very long discussion took place when I raised the problem some 2 years ago and I suggested we should stick to ISO codes. Know-it-alls quickly dismissed it as irrelevant. Here you are!
And Kurdish is but the tip of the iceberg...
Thanks sacredceltic well replied and i appreciated it highly.
> A very long discussion took place when I raised the problem some 2 years ago and I suggested we should stick to ISO codes.
I think this is a good idea and should be discussed. It would be much fairer and easier to use the ISO code...
.-.-.
> By the way, we should not use flags on Tatoeba at all.
I quite agree.
Maybe I am the only one here, who disagrees with that. Strongly.
Having just ISO codes in black-and-white takes away the handy effect of identifying all the languages present by the glimpse of an eye.
I understand all the concernces about flags and the problems arising. But I also like to emphasize the practical point. It takes much longer to look in a large list for some three-letter code than to look for the easily recognizable pattern of a flag.
The best would of course be if languages had flags on their own... but that's not the case, unfortunately. I'm just concerned the whole page would turn black-and-white (not literally, of course) by replacing the flags by short homogenous 2- or 3-letter codes.
>Having just ISO codes in black-and-white takes away the handy effect of identifying all the languages present by the glimpse of an eye.
+1
I disagree,
using iso tags or colors would just confuse new users and probably discourage them to participate.
I know many users who don't participate anymore because they don't see a specific flag, for example.
name: Old English
iso code: ang
flag: http://i198.photobucket.com/alb...dibble/ang.png
http://tatoeba.org/eng/tags/sho...g/%C3%86nglisc
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences_lists/show/769
Here's a list of some OE setences I translated.
The translations aren't exact and the Old English sentences don't contain the "standard" letters I've tried to institute here.
Hmm, can you give some suggestions to fix the OE?
name: Sindarin
iso code : sjn
flag: http://i.imgur.com/FLRbb.png
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences_lists/show/737
name: Telugu
iso code : tel
flag: Can't find one.
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences_lists/show/737
name: Novial
iso code : nov
flag: http://i.imgur.com/GnhkS.png
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences_lists/show/763
name: Tok Pisin
iso code : tpi
flag: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wik...Guinea.svg.png
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences_lists/show/767