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FeuDRenais FeuDRenais August 5, 2010 at 12:22 PM August 5, 2010 at 12:22 PM link permalink

General Question:

What's Tatoeba's official policy on a user's behavior? Specifically, if a user flat out uses insulting names to refer to other users (i.e. calling them dogs), derides them (i.e. by creating a caricature and building on it), and makes fun of them in a way that an immature high schooler would, do the moderators take action or is the user allowed to continue? I don't think this has been addressed at all since the problem hasn't really come up much (if at all) before, but as it has now, it would be nice to hear the official stance on this.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic August 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM August 5, 2010 at 12:42 PM link permalink

and what about the chirpings ?

blay_paul blay_paul August 5, 2010 at 1:06 PM August 5, 2010 at 1:06 PM link permalink

I don't think there is much official policy yet, but if a user is disruptive _and_ useless I'm sure action would be taken in short order. Otherwise you have to weigh up their contributions against the risk that the feel of the Tatoeba community will be affected enough to discourage other people from taking part.

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sacredceltic sacredceltic August 5, 2010 at 3:29 PM August 5, 2010 at 3:29 PM link permalink

A cheval donné on ne regarde pas la bride !

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blay_paul blay_paul August 5, 2010 at 4:58 PM August 5, 2010 at 4:58 PM link permalink

ただより高いものはない。

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sacredceltic sacredceltic August 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM August 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM link permalink

I pay the fair price...

TRANG TRANG August 5, 2010 at 8:11 PM August 5, 2010 at 8:11 PM link permalink

My current position is that Tatoeba should not get involved in personal conflicts. Unfortunately, we cannot prevent them from happening, but all we can do is to remind people that this is not a warzone, this is not high school, and everyone has to make an effort to behave as a civilized human being.

A few good practices to remember are:
1) To NEVER reply to provocation with more provocation, even if it's tempting.
2) To ALWAYS solve personal conflicts in private, not in public.

We also have to understand that whenever tensions appear, everyone who is part of the conflict has their own responsibility for it. It really makes it easier to solve conflicts when people can, for once, forget about their ego, stop looking at others flaws and instead, look at their own mistakes and admit them.

At any rate, I don't want to threaten people with censorship or punishment, because this is not the solution. Tensions originate first of all from misunderstandings, so the only real solution is to lift up these misunderstandings... which requires an effort of communication.

The best thing moderators can do is point out to rule #14 of the contributors' guide (which I will reformulate to include more thoughts on good behavior).

If despite of everything, someone wants to continue insulting other members, well... Technically they can. But socially, they can't. Because by doing so, they will generate a terrible image of themselves, they will lose everyone's respect and they will be completely ignored since no one will want to waste time talking to them. I don't think anyone in their right mind would want to end up like that...

TRANG TRANG September 28, 2010 at 3:46 AM September 28, 2010 at 3:46 AM link permalink

You can consider this as the official policies:

http://blog.tatoeba.org/2010/09...espectful.html

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MUIRIEL MUIRIEL September 28, 2010 at 10:06 AM September 28, 2010 at 10:06 AM link permalink

Great work, Trang!

keklesurvivant keklesurvivant September 28, 2010 at 11:43 PM September 28, 2010 at 11:43 PM link permalink

Approved :)