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DostKaplan DostKaplan September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 3:27:57 AM UTC link Permalink

I searched for “your kind of” (with the quotation marks) from English to Turkish and I got back results like:

What's your favorite kind of art?
I don't talk to people of your kind.
What kind of dressing do you want on your salad?
I've heard all kinds of stupid things, but your idea has broken all records.

This wasn’t the behavior before. Before, the results would have been sentences containing those three words juxtaposed together in that order.

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DostKaplan DostKaplan September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 5:27:24 AM UTC link Permalink

I hope this bug gets fixed soon. “Is marked” returns all sorts of unwanted sentences.

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DostKaplan DostKaplan September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:12:17 AM UTC link Permalink

By the way, “is marked” (with quotation marks) returns:

I know Mark is sick.
Opposition is becoming more marked.
Mark's book is very interesting.
Marks & Spencers is a well-known British retailer.

It’s as if the quotation marks in the search string are ignored.

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deniko deniko September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:14:47 AM UTC link Permalink

It looks like you're using the wrong quotation marks, “ ” instead of " ". Try using " ", search for "is marked" (copy and paste it from my message to the search form).

deniko deniko September 27, 2017, edited September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:09:52 AM UTC, edited September 27, 2017 at 8:11:29 AM UTC link Permalink

It looks like this works fine at the moment. When I search for "your kind of" I only get one English sentence though, #3724840, and it hasn't been translated into Turkish.

https://i.imgur.com/ZZA3fiI.png

If I search for "your kind of" from ENGLISH to TURKISH, I get zero results, as expected.

https://i.imgur.com/uG2xQ5I.png

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DostKaplan DostKaplan September 27, 2017, edited September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:18:49 AM UTC, edited September 27, 2017 at 8:19:38 AM UTC link Permalink

I know no other kind of double quotation marks. It’s the same character that I have always been using on the iPhone keypad.

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deniko deniko September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:20:50 AM UTC link Permalink

Yeah, time for an upgrade, just buy something decent like an Android.

;)

DostKaplan DostKaplan September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:27:39 AM UTC link Permalink

You’re right. When I copy-and-paste your quotation mark and use it in my search string, I get the expected results. I updated my iPhone 6 to iOS 11 a few days ago. I wonder if Apple somehow used a different character for the quotation mark in this release. Still, if my quotation mark is not a valid character, shouldn’t I get an error or no results?

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deniko deniko September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:32:30 AM UTC link Permalink

Your quotation marks are actually two different characters, the opening mark is different from the closing mark: “ ”

Standard computer quotation marks are both the same: " "

I believe the search engine just treats yours as "unknown special characters" which it then ignores.

I found this article:

https://www.jordanmerrick.com/p...t-punctuation/

Yours are called "smart quotes" and they can be disabled, as per the article.

DostKaplan DostKaplan September 27, 2017, edited September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:34:16 AM UTC, edited September 27, 2017 at 8:34:55 AM UTC link Permalink

OK, it looks like iOS 11 introduced a feature called Smart Punctuation which changes the punctuation according to where it is used in the sentence. I turned it off in
Settings-->General-->Keyboard
It is working fine like before now. Thanks.

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DostKaplan DostKaplan September 27, 2017 September 27, 2017 at 8:49:06 AM UTC link Permalink

Perhaps a fix can be made in Tatoeba using regexp to convert all such quotes in the search string to "straight" quotes before performing any searches with it. I am sure I am not the only iPhone user here.