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Objectivesea Objectivesea August 12, 2018 August 12, 2018 at 6:16:35 AM UTC link Permalink

DISPLAY ISSUE

It would be nice if the display window for sentences could be made slightly bigger to accommodate the display of accented capital letters like the Ĉ, Ĝ, Ĥ, Ĵ, Ŝ and Ŭ of Esperanto, as well as the German letters Ä, Ö and Ü. Other languages also sometimes need to display capital letters with accents, such as É, Û, À and many others. With the current font and the current window for displaying the sentence in each language, these accents are often not visible even when I take care to make sure that I've typed the needed accents in the course of creating my original or translated sentence.

In Sentence #7056520, for example, my Tatoeba friend @danepo just reminded me that the sentence “Ĉu vi ne estas kanadano?” should begin with the circumflexed ‘Ĉu’; obviously on his computer, the word was appearing as if it was ‘Cu’; i.e., without the needed circumflex, and he also was unable to see that the circumflex was already there.

Increasing the leading in messages like this might also be good, using a line-height of 120 or 130%. Currently this message seems to be set solid, and accented capital letters sometimes overlap with the descenders in letters like g, j, p, q, and y.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US August 12, 2018 August 12, 2018 at 4:36:43 PM UTC link Permalink

On my machine, I can see the accents fine even when I reduce the size of the browser display. Maybe it would help if you could post screenshots of what you're seeing.

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sabretou sabretou August 12, 2018 August 12, 2018 at 8:43:53 PM UTC link Permalink

The accents are rendering correctly for me as well.

Objectivesea Objectivesea August 15, 2018 August 15, 2018 at 8:29:28 AM UTC link Permalink

DISPLAY ISSUE RESOLVED

The contributor @danepo apparently had the same issue as I, since he has complained about missing circumflexes when they are in fact there. But not everyone, apparently, experienced this anomaly.

I have good news. Since some people apparently were able to see the accented capital letters, I changed my Firefox preferences so that instead of having Helvetica as the default sans-serif font, it now uses Lucida Grande. Magically, everything now looks fine on my browser. I may suggest the same solution for user @danepo and for anyone else who experienced this annoying problem. By the way, Helvetica Neue and Arial also look fine; only the bog-standard Helvetica seems to have the display issue.

(For AlanF, I may also suggest that he can temporarily change his deault sans-serif font to Helvetica in order to recreate the problem. Then restore the setting to the previous chosen font.)

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AlanF_US AlanF_US August 16, 2018 August 16, 2018 at 1:04:48 PM UTC link Permalink

Even after changing all my default fonts on Firefox (main default font, default sans-serif font, etc.) from Padauk to HelvLight, and on Chrome from Arial to HelvLight, I didn't experience the problem. However, it's good to know that if someone is experiencing such a problem, changing default fonts can make it go away.

Aiji Aiji August 13, 2018 August 13, 2018 at 1:54:04 PM UTC link Permalink

It would help to know on what device and browser the issue occurs.