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cueyayotl cueyayotl October 8, 2018 October 8, 2018 at 5:46:08 AM UTC link Permalink

ASIDE FROM KABYLE - does anyone have any issue with any other of our language icons? User sabretou has mentioned to me that 2 Indian languages, Bodo and Maithili should have their language icons changed as well – perhaps to an Indian flag with ISO 639-3 code on the side. We don't have any active Bodo or Maithili users now, so I will make the call to change their icons, unless someone here has a rational objection.

Any other suggestions for changes of language icons (flags)?

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sabretou sabretou October 8, 2018 October 8, 2018 at 8:14:24 AM UTC link Permalink

The icons for Amharic and Hawaiian look a little squashed at present, so I've created updated versions:

https://image.ibb.co/frYBjU/amharic.jpg
https://image.ibb.co/kR7qB9/hawaiian.jpg

The icon for Guarani was assymetrical, so I've centred it: https://image.ibb.co/nuCRJp/guarani.jpg

Also, keeping with the updates to Latin and Ancient Greek, I think the icon for Sanskrit could be beautified as well. I don't have any ideas on how to proceed with that, however.

The icons for Malayalam, Mohawk and Tamil *may* need to be changed, as I suspect they may not be properly representative. Separately, the icon of Telugu could perhaps be beautified. I have been waiting for active native speakers of these languages to discuss this with them.

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cueyayotl cueyayotl October 8, 2018 October 8, 2018 at 1:38:55 PM UTC link Permalink

Ah, you're right; I'll take your versions of Guarani and Amharic, but I think that the Hawaiian flag is actually 1:2 proportion (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Hawaii), but it definitely looks like it needs to be changed.
None of our active users ever complained about Malayalam, Mohawk, or Tamil, but definitely, if you can show us precisely why they should be changed, we will change them.
As for flag beautification, let us know if you have any ideas – I've beautified a few myself, and I'm sure many of our flags could use a touch-up.

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sabretou sabretou October 8, 2018, edited October 8, 2018 October 8, 2018 at 1:49:40 PM UTC, edited October 8, 2018 at 1:53:45 PM UTC link Permalink

Malayalam: I have a suspicion that the flag represents the seal of Travancore, as opposed to the state of Kerala. They're very similar, so it's hard to tell.

Mohawk: This flag represents an organisation, The Mohawk Warrior Society. It is possible that not all Mohawk contributors will accept this flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M...arrior_Society

Tamil: The last I checked, years ago, this was the flag of some informal international organisation promoting the Tamil language. It doesn't seem ideal, particularly given that (to my observation), Tamil flags typically involve red, black, and white.

Telugu: The present flag is plain, and the font is squashed. While we could create a non-squashed version of the flag, perhaps we can also wait for a native speaker to suggest any appropriate colours or symbols.

Like I said, each of these cases would have to be discussed with native speakers, as I don't think I'm entirely qualified to comment on these.

danepo danepo October 8, 2018, edited October 9, 2018 October 8, 2018 at 10:25:54 AM UTC, edited October 9, 2018 at 5:32:39 PM UTC link Permalink

It's difficult to distinguish between the two Norwegian Icons (NN and NB).

soliloquist soliloquist October 8, 2018, edited October 9, 2018 October 8, 2018 at 10:05:00 PM UTC, edited October 9, 2018 at 4:51:39 AM UTC link Permalink

I think the icon for Old Turkish is a bit low contrast. It's actually a stone inscription. I liked its authenticity, though, but its visibility isn't so good.

Here's a more visible alternative with the same script.

https://prnt.sc/l3r4vk

Please consider.

Edit: I've added another version of the first flag. This one has smaller letter spacing. It might look better when shrinked.

http://prntscr.com/l3u81e


This flag is also popular among the Old Turkish enthusiasts.

http://thefutureofeuropes.wikia...anate_flag.png

We don't exactly know how the real flag of Turkic Khaganate looked like, but we know that their totem was a wolf.

The reason behind turquoise background is that the word turquoise comes from Turk.

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sabretou sabretou October 9, 2018, edited October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 at 12:58:12 PM UTC, edited October 9, 2018 at 12:58:48 PM UTC link Permalink

I've resized the flags to match Tatoeba's format. Here's how they look:

1: https://image.ibb.co/es0Lyp/oldturkish1.jpg
2: https://image.ibb.co/mB3vW9/oldturkish2.jpg
3: https://image.ibb.co/i7PPPU/oldturkish3.jpg

I think 1 looks the clearest.

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OsoHombre OsoHombre October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 at 1:14:11 PM UTC link Permalink

The third one isn't good. Just a small green splinter on a blue background. 1 and 2 are much better.

Aiji Aiji October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 at 2:10:59 PM UTC link Permalink

I agree with you. And with OsoHombre.

soliloquist soliloquist October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 at 2:36:06 PM UTC link Permalink

Thank you very much. 1 is my first choice as well.

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cueyayotl cueyayotl October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 at 3:44:01 PM UTC link Permalink

Well, I'm sad to see my language icon for Old Turkish go, but if that's what everyone wants, it'll have to be so.

So, I'll put it up for vote:
Keep Original or use No.1?

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sabretou sabretou October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 at 3:51:55 PM UTC link Permalink

Use No.1, it's cleaner and has better contrast.

OsoHombre OsoHombre October 9, 2018 October 9, 2018 at 4:40:31 PM UTC link Permalink

cueyayotl

How are you going to let us know about your final decision regarding the Berber/Kabyle flag?