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cojiluc cojiluc November 29, 2018, edited November 29, 2018 November 29, 2018 at 8:05:48 AM UTC, edited November 29, 2018 at 8:27:25 AM UTC link Permalink

For some sentences there is a notice saying "This sentence is original and was not derived from translation.".

Is it possible to perform a search within (or out of) all such sentences?

This could be sometimes useful, if one would like to search within all original sentences (i.e., not directly translated from other languages), or within all non-original (directly translated) sentences.

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soliloquist soliloquist November 29, 2018 November 29, 2018 at 8:28:09 PM UTC link Permalink

>Is it possible to perform a search within (or out of) all such sentences?

You can easily do this using the advanced search. Just be sure to select the 'exclude' and 'any language' options on the translations pane.

This link, for example, shows the original German sentences that have the word Tom.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...io=&sort=words

And this one shows all original Persian sentences (no word limitation).

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...io=&sort=words

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brauchinet brauchinet November 29, 2018 November 29, 2018 at 8:41:13 PM UTC link Permalink

This isn't quite the same, because you only get sentences without any translations.
Say, I want to see original Turkish sentences, no matter whether they have been translated.

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soliloquist soliloquist November 29, 2018 November 29, 2018 at 8:52:25 PM UTC link Permalink

You're right, but sentences without any translations are likely to be original.

Is there a better way to search such sentences regardless if they have translations or not?



TRANG TRANG November 30, 2018 November 30, 2018 at 7:02:10 PM UTC link Permalink

This is not possible yet, sorry. The "original" indicator is still a fairly recent feature and the search has not yet been adapted to take this information into account.

Could you elaborate what drives you to search for original sentences, or to exclude original sentences in your search?

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cojiluc cojiluc December 5, 2018 December 5, 2018 at 9:08:47 PM UTC link Permalink

TRANG:


1-Sometimes I would like to simply obtain a statistic of all original sentences in my native languages, and search among them

2-translations, even the best ones, are not as natural as non translated sentences, and inadvertently inherite some characteristics of the language that translate. When I search sentences in a given language, sometimes I prefere to search just between the originals.