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Currently on the "Browse by language" page[1] we display all sentences in a given language. If we display instead only the 1000 (or 10000) latest sentences, would it affect you?
If yes, please let me know how you are using this page and why you need to go to pages above 100.
Same question for the "Comments" page[2] and the "Logs of {user}" page[3].
Thank you!
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[1] https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...ll_in/jpn/none
[2] https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence_comments/index
[3] https://tatoeba.org/eng/contrib.../of_user/TRANG
no objection
no objection.
No objection.
No problems with that. Whenever I need more, I simply use the advanced search feature.
small suggestion: if possible, clicking or pressing a flag, results in visiting the corresponding language link on the "browse by language" page.
> Same question for the "Comments" page[2] and the "Logs of {user}" page[3].
Comparing to the other limitation (1000 or 10000 latest sentences), 2 or 3 pages seem low to me.
A while ago, I noticed an advanced contributor unlinking sentences of other users without leaving comments. I needed to check that user's logs several pages to look for suspicious unlinkings. Unless there's a better way to view unlinking activities, I suggest not to limit the logs page.
> 2 or 3 pages seem low to me
The [2] and [3] are references to the links at the bottom of my message. It wasn't meant to say that page limit would be 2 pages and 3 pages.
In general we would put 1000 results as a limit. We could consider increasing it to 10,000 results, depending on feedback. With 1000 results, that would be:
- 20 pages for the comments (there are 50 comments per page)
- 5 pages for the logs (there are 200 logs per page)
When you check the user's log, do you remember how far you checked? 10th page? 100th page?
In any case, for that situation, you can always report the user to admins if you cannot manage to evaluate if his activity is normal or suspicious. Then we can investigate further.
Technically if you have some programming knowledge, you could also extract and analyze the data from the contributions.csv that we export: https://downloads.tatoeba.org/e...utions.tar.bz2
> The [2] and [3] are references to the links at the bottom of my message. It wasn't meant to say that page limit would be 2 pages and 3 pages.
Sorry, I missed that.
>In general we would put 1000 results as a limit. We could consider increasing it to 10,000 results, depending on feedback.
I think that would be sufficient for comments and logs, too.
There are times when I want to know how many results there are for a search, even if I don't want to look at all of them. I'm hoping that we can continue to display the count in addition to the pages, as we do for advanced search. For instance, searching for occurrences of the word "good" in English gives a page with this heading:
Advanced search (1000 results out of 15694 occurrences)
while searching for occurrences of "excellent" in English gives a page with this heading:
Advanced search (366 results)
Can we display this "X results out of Y occurrences" information for the pages you mentioned? Or would displaying the count significantly counteract the savings we would get by limiting the number of pages of results?
> Can we display this "X results out of Y occurrences" information for the pages you
> mentioned?
For the "Browse by language" page, yes, there are plans to keep the total number of sentences.
For the comments, I didn't plan to keep the count, but it shouldn't be a problem to do so. Is it an important number for you though?
For the logs, there was never a count and there is no plan to add it, unless you can think of a situation where that number is useful.
I have written my suggestions regarding how to update the titles of the pages in this GitHub issue:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...ment-476564743
> Or would displaying the count significantly counteract the savings we would get by
> limiting the number of pages of results?
Generally speaking, there's a relatively easy solution for displaying the count on large sets of results: have a script that can initialize the count, store this number somewhere and then increment/decrement the number when needed. That's what we do for the number of sentences in each language, or the number of audio. That's also what we do for the number of sentences in a list. And that's what we would do if the number of comments or the number of log entries was an important information to know.
So no, displaying the count wouldn't slow down the display of the page if we implement this count caching mechanism. The main issue with this solution is that the count might be wrong sometimes. Either because we forgot to update the count for a particular use case, or because there's a bug that prevented the update of the count.
> For the comments, I didn't plan to keep the count, but it shouldn't be a problem to do so. Is it an important number for you though?
Not that important. It's just interesting to see how many comments a user has made, but the information loses importance when the number gets large. There's a lot of difference between someone making 0 or 100 comments, but not much between someone making 1000 or 10,000.
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> Would this also mean 1,000 comments when limited to one language
Yes.
No objection.
I didn't know this search [1]
Till now I collect all my kirundi sentences in lists up to exactly 1000 sentences to be sure to reach them later (for tagging them someday).
And for me it's very helpful to see this
"Advanced search (1000 results out of 15694 occurrences)" Alan was talking of
to know how much I have to fine-tune my search when I'm looking for sentences to translate from a list.