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DostKaplan DostKaplan April 18, 2019, edited April 18, 2019 April 18, 2019 at 10:12:26 AM UTC, edited April 18, 2019 at 10:17:17 AM UTC link Permalink

English --> French

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=eng&to=fra

I see French and Turkish results.

But when I choose, English --> Any Language

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=eng&to=und

The French result is missing. In fact, there should at least be a result in German, too.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US April 18, 2019 April 18, 2019 at 2:37:42 PM UTC link Permalink

You have the following items in your "Languages" list in your settings:

tur, ara, eng, zsm

When you do a search with French as your "To" language, you are shown results with French as well. But when you do a search with "Any language" as your "To" language, you will only see results in the languages in your list. If you want to see results in other languages as well, you should add them to your "Languages" list, or you should clear out that list. But if you do not clear out the list, you should remember that it will affect your results.

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DostKaplan DostKaplan April 22, 2019 April 22, 2019 at 10:05:15 AM UTC link Permalink

I find the behavior with respect to the "To" language and the languages in my "Languages" list somewhat inconsistent and confusing. The behavior is not apparent to the user. Perhaps have a checkbox below the "To" language:

[ ] Include languages in my Languages list

Otherwise, if the languages in my "Languages" are to be used for the results, then at least be consistent about it. If I search for a very common word like "love", I see results using the "To" language as well as the languages in my "Languages" list, as you said. But if I search for a less common word like "profound", and my "To" language is "Malay" (zsm) which _also_ happens to be one of the languages in my "Languages" list (tur, ara, eng, zsm), I get zero results even though there are translations for Turkish. If the standard behavior is that languages in my "Languages" are to be used for the results, then I would expect to see results if any one of the languages in my "Languages" list has results regardless of whether the "To" language has results (but _especially_ if my "To" language happens to be one of the languages in my "Languages" list). As it is, that's not what's happening.

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AlanF_US AlanF_US April 23, 2019 April 23, 2019 at 5:26:33 PM UTC link Permalink

I see your point. However, even though there is an apparent inconsistency from one standpoint, the behavior is consistent from another.

The purpose of the "To" language is to limit hits to sentences that have translations in that language. By contrast, the purpose of the language list in your settings is to control the display of those sentences. Thus, if you search for sentences with "love" with Malay as your "To" language, you will get sentences that have (direct or indirect) translations of "love" (as well as "lovely", "loves", etc.) into Malay. As a bonus, you will see translations into Turkish and Arabic, BUT ONLY FOR THOSE SENTENCES THAT HAVE TRANSLATIONS INTO MALAY. By contrast, if you search for sentences with "profound" with Malay as your "To" language, and there are no matches in Malay, you won't get any hits. The fact that there are matches in Turkish doesn't matter.