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alexmarcelo
2012-12-25 07:29
I'd like to recommend sacredceltic as a corpus maintainer. I've known him for a good amount of time, and I think he is experienced enough to do the job.
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hayastan
2012-12-25 07:38
Sacredceltic has my full support. He is one of the most active and compromised users in the project, and I think he would be a good corpus maintainer.
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Amastan
2012-12-25 08:45
Je soutiens la candidature de Sacredceltic, c'est un contributeur très actif en langue française et un défenseur de la diversité linguistique. De plus, il aide volontiers les personnes qui traduisent/écrivent en français ou apprennent cette langue. D'autre part, Sacredceltic est un membre qui veille au respect des idéaux du site Tatoeba. Donc, je suis pour sa promotion.

Nekk wufqeɣ i wakken Sacredceltic ad yaley weswir-nnes deg udeg-a. Sacredceltic d imttekki ameqran deg tefṛensist yerna d yiwen seg wid ay yettdafaɛen ɣef tanḍa (aṭṭuqqet) n yilsawen. Nnig waya, netta yettɛawan seg wul wid ay yessuqqulen/ttarun s tefṛensist ed wid ay ilemmden iles-a. Sacredceltic d amdan ay yesseḥṛasen ɣef uqader n wuktuyen n Tatoeba. Wufqeɣ ad yaley weswir-nnes.
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Shishir
2012-12-25 17:25
+1
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Balamax
2012-12-25 17:37
+1
Pfirsichbaeumchen
2012-12-25 18:57
I, too, think it is about time to appoint him corpus maintainer if he agrees.

Ich bin auch der Ansicht, daß es an der Zeit ist, ihn zum Korpuspfleger zu ernennen, sofern er einverstanden ist.
MrShoval
2012-12-25 21:41
Yes, he is the man (:
freefighter
2012-12-25 21:49
He has my support. :)
sacredceltic
2012-12-26 09:12
Merci pour cette proposition inattendue. Je vous remercie tous !
duran
2012-12-26 12:03
As Hayastan said:)
cntrational
2012-12-26 13:11
I oppose. Someone who is so rude towards users, someone who gets into petty arguments due to plain arrogance, and someone who will likely not change this behaviour when promoted shouldn't be given such responsibility.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-26 13:35
Thank you to substantiate your accusations with references. It should be easy, unlike you, I never erase any of my comments.
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sysko
2012-12-26 13:49
for the erased comments, if you talk about the wall messages of last time, they've been deleted by me (I left a message about these deletions). If you're talking about other comments, ignore this message.
cntrational
2012-12-26 13:50
I'd be glad to supply a reference: http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/1258105
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sacredceltic
2012-12-26 13:52
Excellent reference where you insulted me right away !
"Who listens to the Académie? Only stuck up old idiots. "
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cntrational
2012-12-26 13:57
And that's irrelevant. I'm not the one vying for an advanced position, you are. If you were a good candidate, you would've responded quietly and politely.

Also remember that hoopla when you insulted al_ex_an_der instead of being peaceful off the bat?
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sacredceltic
2012-12-26 14:50
> I'm not the one vying for an advanced position, you are.

err...no...not in the least...and I never was...
Again, you assert things without ever substantiating anything.

>Also remember that hoopla when you insulted al_ex_an_der

That's nonsense ! Please provide a reference.
cntrational
2012-12-26 13:58
I also note that you believe in nonsense about things like French being a logical language and immune from usage, and refused to budge when given evidence contrary to the fact (like the loss of ne in spoken French).
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sacredceltic
2012-12-26 14:08
>you believe in nonsense about things like French being a logical language

I never stated such a fact. On the contrary, I think French is often most illogical, like all natural languages.

Again, provide references.

>and refused to budge when given evidence contrary to the fact (like the loss of ne in spoken French).

This loss of "ne" that you probably gleaned in some superficial pseudo-linguistical unscientific book is just ridiculous. Just search for "ne/n'" in the Tatoeba corpus or Google books in French, it's pervading, including in dialogues...
https://www.google.com/search?q...en&safe=active

Alors vos considérations oiseuses sur une langue dont vous NE connaissez goutte, je N'en ai cure !


cntrational
2012-12-26 14:00
And finally, a direct quote from you: "I agree...but I always retort to insults (read my profile)"
Nero
2012-12-26 14:29
+1
Vortarulo
2012-12-27 16:45
I have to agree on exactly the same points as you. It's evident, that sacredceltic has done a great job for the project, but I'm concerned about the image he might give out to newcomers. It's true that a corpus maintainer has to pose a good example for other users, just as user liori said further down in this thread. With all due respect (especially of the huge amount of work he has done), my personal opinion is, that he wouldn't be a good corpus maintainer.
At least the decision should be well discussed. The question is polarizing, I believe.
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herrsilen
2012-12-27 17:00
+1
freefighter
2012-12-26 15:16
As I said I support his candidacy. I know sometimes he is provocatively rude, but he understands and respect the rules in Tatoeba, and in a very strict manner. He respects sentences more than he cares people's feelings. And this is a style, not something to dispraise. As long as you don't explicitly insult people, it is ok.

Disclaimer:What I have written here are only my subjective observations and they may not state an absolute fact :))
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sacredceltic
2012-12-26 15:22
Your rudeness is not mine. Rudeness is cultural. There is no single definition of what rude is and I won't have it imposed on me in any way.
In any case, unlike cntrational, I never call a "stuck-up idiot" someone who I don't know...
If you consider this polite, then, it definitely proves my point that "rude" is cultural and you may keep your "politeness" to yourself. Just stick to the point, then, and don't bother.
liori
2012-12-27 16:30
A corpus maintainer should be kept to a high standard. Corpus maintainers are people who should lead by example, because they have the biggest influence on whether new users will stay with the site or not. Vulgar or offending language is certainly not desired.

SacredCeltic already got its rights stripped (advanced user status) exactly because of such undesirable behavior. Trang had to implement a "good behavior" policy because of him (http://blog.tatoeba.org/2010/09/). And it seems that this didn't make SacredCeltic change:

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence...#comment-86581
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/881978 (note that the offended party is Jim Breen, well known as the maintainer of a popular Japanese-English dictionary and one of Tatoeba's grandfathers. Hardly a person who doesn't know grammar of his own native language)
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence...comment-108938

Sysko erased lots of his other "works" not to scary away potential new contributors, including the recent episode cited by Sysko in another branch of this thread.

His behavior made several users stop contributing to Tatoeba, among them were: u2fs, pandark, qdii, Pharamp, FeudRenais, alphafour, Swift, Shiawase. Who knows how many other people SacredCeltic discouraged...

Corpus maintainers should also accept how other people use their language. Corpus maintainers shouldn't impose their own beliefs on other users either. Tatoeba is not a political propaganda site, but a tool to get insights into ways language is used in real life. SacredCeltic's behavior unfortunately denies that:

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/1017118
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/67541
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/245507
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/262618

Also, what's worst, in some cases he deliberately harms Tatoeba development to prove his point.

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentence...#comment-95059

When you consider that there's a dedicated web page to list examples of his offensive behavior (even if I don't necessarily agree with all the examples), and that some people admit they use a user script to hide his posts, it gets even more dreadful.

http://qdii.dodges.it/sc3.html
https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/151338

I'm voting against SacredCeltic becoming a corpus maintainer.
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cntrational
2012-12-27 17:12
Well put.
sacredceltic
2012-12-27 23:19
Who in the world ever heard of Liori ? It seems he created 152 sentences...great !
I never heard of this guy...He never even commented anyone of my sentences, but seems to have an opinion over all my 320.000+ contributions...Astonishing !
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liori
2012-12-28 01:03
I believe that nobody should use argumentum ad personam. In particular corpus maintainers, people who have full administrative power over the corpus we all create, must be free from this kind of reasoning.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-28 09:07
I don't know who you are Liori. Never heard of you. What's your problem exactly ?
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Nero
2012-12-28 12:55
Argumentum ad hominem
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sacredceltic
2012-12-28 13:08
what about ad hominem websites ?
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cntrational
2012-12-28 17:51
The website does nothing but quote your arguments, unaltered. It leaves what to think of the argument up to the reader. Your negative view of the website is your own.

Meanwhile, you're running around insulting members for posting facts, or accusing current corpus maintainers of tyranny.
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alexmarcelo
2012-12-28 17:59
To change someone's sentences just because you don't like them is typical of tyrants. And as for this link, I didn't feel insulted at all. It was just a matter of opinion.

http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/960775
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cntrational
2012-12-28 18:13
Call for Vortarulo to be removed, then, if you think he's a tyrant.
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alexmarcelo
2012-12-28 18:19
I'm not naming names, you are...
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cntrational
2012-12-28 18:23
Erm. Scroll down. You see SC calling Vortarulo a tyrant. Logically, most people would assume you're talking about the same thing.
alexmarcelo
2012-12-28 18:31
Unfortunately, Vortarulo is not the only one who modifies other people's contributions.
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Shishir
2012-12-28 20:12
+1 Will something be done about this?

With this argument I've started wondering whether here it's more important not to argue than to follow the rules.
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alexmarcelo
2012-12-28 20:13
That's the point!
sacredceltic
2012-12-28 18:18
@alexmarcelo

for some, such as cntrational, u2fs, qdii, etc...having a different opinion from theirs is an insult...
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sysko
2012-12-28 18:27
[A post has been removed]

The reply didn't bring any "rational" argument, so I've removed it.
cntrational
2012-12-28 18:34
Let me spell it out for you. Look at liori's posts. And then look at your response.

Not once has liori insulted you. All of his posts are backed up by fact.

Meanwhile, you insult him and act like his arguments are somehow less valid because he has only a few sentences.

What do you think the definition of ad hominem is, and who's committing ad hominems?
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Nero
2012-12-28 18:35
+1
sacredceltic
2012-12-28 18:50
I never had any argument nor even a conversation, not even a word with Liori before he posted this list of irrelevant recriminations.
I have no idea why this guy would advertise a website whose aim is to publish the different debates I had over the years with various other contributors.
This collection is just baffling...and useless, because most of the time, it reveals how I have been insulted by these guys...
He doesn't mention on his profile that he speaks French, and although most of my contributions and comments on this site are in French, he thinks he can draw general conclusions about it...It's just mad, really...
I will leave you continue your little club of offended idle hatemongers and will continue my work, as usual...
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cntrational
2012-12-28 18:52
Fortunately, our club of hatemongers has effectively destroyed your chance of ever becoming a corpus maintainer, barring sysko or Trang choosing to ignore all of us. I'd count that as a win.
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sysko
2012-12-28 19:00
not ever.

Even in the hypothesis that all the claim against Sacredceltic were true, I do consider that every crime has a limitation period.
In the case for which the case is not "everyone" agree, I will need to set up more precise rules about what is consider as relevant, what is not etc.
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cntrational
2012-12-28 19:02
Fair enough. though I'm sure that sacredceltic will provide more "crimes" for us to use if this ever comes up again. :)
alexmarcelo
2012-12-28 19:06
> I'd count that as a win.
Then they'll have to ignore hayastan, Amastan, Shishir, Balamax, Pfirsichbaeumchen, MrShoval, freefighter, duran, shanghainese and me.
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sysko
2012-12-28 19:53
Well for the time being we will keep up as it.

The procedure has always stated that we'll would promote only if there's was some really clear consensus on the promotion

I agree in that case I've been able to see the limitation of the current system.

I'm currently finishing to code the beta of a Tatoeba's wiki (I'm now just at a inch of a first release, I'll explain the rational between this later)

I'll take this occcasion to write in a very precise way a better procedure to handle the "not black not white" case

When it will be done, and if Sacredceltic is interested in the position, we'll be able to discuss again about it, with this time clear definition of what is relevant to the discussion and how the final outcome will be decided.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-28 23:10
What I am interested in is that the Corpus be protected against ROGUE Corpus maintainers such as Vortarulo, Guybrush88 or al_ex_an_der, who consider sentences to be their personal property and may modify them at will, transforming Tatoeba in a paranoid universe where everybody must constantly check their sentences, lest they are changed while they're sleeping...
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al_ex_an_der
2012-12-29 00:48
Imagine how much sympathy you would gain without making knowingly false statements.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-29 09:08
http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/557210

Anyway, I lost your sympathy for good the day I demonstrated that punctuation in esperanto is free, and not the same as in German that you want to impose...
People sometimes have a very limited sympathy to start with...
sacredceltic
2012-12-28 23:40
And what if somebody creates 10 profiles, each creating a few sentences from time to time to fake activity ? Does that count as 10 votes ?
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alexmarcelo
2012-12-29 00:16
+1
BTW, if it's about quantity, we win... 11 x 7!
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alexmarcelo
2012-12-29 00:18
But of course Tatoeba is not the best example of democracy...
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sacredceltic
2012-12-29 00:21
and did you try to balance that against the number of contributions ? That would be more something like...100 to 1 !
sacredceltic
2012-12-29 00:19
FeuDrenais, alias Sbgodin, alias rene1596, alias...will create more profiles, don't worry !
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cntrational
2012-12-29 03:13
Sbgodin is a frequent member of the #tatoeba irc channel, y'know. Calling him an alt account is just paranoia.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-29 09:11
He is not a frequent contributor of correct French sentences and comments, though, although he says he's French...and neither were his other impersonations...

Your irc channel is just a hate group for idle teenagers.
davearms
2012-12-29 02:17
As a frequent Tateoba user and, more recently, contributor (albeit one who will contribute at his own pace), I find this numbers game response quite juvenile. This idea, 'I have x thousand sentences, you're opinion is irrelevant', and the underlying attitude would nearly have me reconsider my continued use of the site.
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sysko
2012-12-29 07:40
I agree on this as even if we were to "classify" users by "how much" they contribute to Tatoeba in a whole, one would have also to consider

- How much they help the community itself (i.e answering to new comers questions, explaining them the rules)

- How much they help keeping a good quality in the corpus (by pointing out mistakes etc.)

- How much they participate with me on the underlying process of creating code for Tatoeba, or discussing on how to create that code

- How much they help spreading the word, by talking about it to their friends even if they are only passive user who use the ressource to search for examples

Of course all these things are very difficult, if not impossible, to quantitfy which make the idea of saying that one contribute more to tatoeba than an other very difficult to judge
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sacredceltic
2012-12-29 17:27
>- How much they help the community itself (i.e answering to new comers questions, explaining them the rules)

cntrational 0, davearms 0, liori 0...

>- How much they help keeping a good quality in the corpus (by pointing out mistakes etc.)

cntrational 0, davearms 0, liori 0...
contour
2012-12-30 07:04
For what it's worth - I don't come to Tatoeba that often, but every time I do, like today, sacredceltic is abusing someone in the comments or in the forum.
It is very unpleasant and makes me not want to come back.

My own contributions may be insignificant, but I have no doubt that he is harming the community by driving away valuable contributors.

Of course, as he says, he manages to do this perfectly well without being a corpus maintainer.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-30 11:09
Repeating something ad nauseam doesn't make it true.
Sbgodin
2012-12-27 18:25
I vote against. I'd rather vote to kick that user out of Tatoeba. Indeed, if that person got higher privileges, that would mean that I will get out of Tatoeba.

I made a script to filter out some user comments in Tatoeba. It gives me some faint feeling that the world is back in peace...
https://userscripts.org/scripts/show/151338
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sacredceltic
2012-12-27 23:15
Je suis honoré !
sacredceltic
2012-12-27 23:22
Sbgodin is a self-proclaimed guy from France who has contributed 220 French sentences in over 2 years...among which, about over half was wrong...great ! Maybe he and Liori are the same guy ?
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Vortarulo
2012-12-28 01:51
I'd say you're disqualifying yourself. Again. But well... I'm sure you'd say the same things about me, or anyone else who criticizes you.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-28 09:06
But as a matter of fact, and although you're a tyrant who has repeatedly modified sentences of other owners against their will, you are a Corpus maintainer...

Yes, I do criticize this behaviour of you as a Corpus maintainer, and all others who behave the way you do. I know you hate that I say that, but I have to. You have to abide by the rules, and because you didn't, you shouldn't enjoy the rights you have.
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sysko
2012-12-30 13:15
please refer to my post posted some minutes ago as a new topic.
davearms
2012-12-29 02:25
"among which, about over half was wrong."

@sacredceltic

Commenting on sentence correctness using the above 'collection' of words? Surely it was with the intent of irony.
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sysko
2012-12-29 07:33
Hello

The comment was about his french sentences, so the fact that the post of Sacredceltic is containing English mistakes is irrelevant as anyway Sacredceltic has fery few English contributions . (2% of his contributions)
cntrational
2012-12-30 11:50
Can you provide examples of Sbgodin's sentences with errors? Similarly with FeuDrenais and all these so-called "alts" that you constantly talk about. I'll cross check with native French speakers and make sure that these are actual errors.

I've already asked one native French speaker to go through the sentences, and they think it's fine.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-30 12:00
you don't know any French, cntrational, so this debate with you is just hollow.
It's easy for a French person to see which mistakes have been made in the logs of different contributors and to see the corrections that have been applied and why and how they have been challenged, or not, in FRENCH.
Curiously, Sbgodin never published any long post or comment in French, because he's just incapable of it without making mistakes that would betray he is not French as he claims.. . That's usually one of the signs. If one is genuine, it shows.

>I've already asked one native French speaker to go through the sentences, and they think it's fine.

Yawn...of course these people would look at the sentences as they are NOW, after they've been corrected by others, following my many outcries and theirs...
You've got to look at the HISTORY of each sentence, and read the associated comments.
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cntrational
2012-12-30 12:07
Even if I don't know French, I can crosscheck with actual French speakers. So, please, post some examples of bad French from Sbgodin.
cntrational
2012-12-30 12:26
http://linuxfr.org/users/sbgodi...r%C3%A9ception

Also, look at this, an entire article in perfect colloquial French written by Sbgodin! (Crosschecked by a French speaker, once more)

Would you still say that he can't write long posts in French? Or would the colloquialisms and neologisms used in the post make it not count?
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sacredceltic
2012-12-30 13:08
Anybody can claim any name on their profiles. There are hundreds of "Christophe Henry" in France, and he may post any url on his profile. That proves nothing at all. The proof is in the pudding : there are mistakes natives just can't make.
cntrational
2012-12-30 12:16
And I should also note that sbgodin's identity is public, his name is Christophe Henry on www.sbgodin.fr and he lives in Metz.
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cntrational
2012-12-30 12:21
...or maybe he just put up a fake identity on a website, and contributed to lernu, wikipedia and linuxFR, just to be able to create fake French sentences on Tatoeba?
sacredceltic
2012-12-30 13:11
yes, he set that up to back his credibility. One can create hundreds such sites ...again, it proves nothing. The proof is in the pudding. This guy is not a native French speaker and that's that. Why he takes so much pain claiming he is is not up to me to determine. Silly teenager's game probably...
Demetrius
2012-12-28 10:03
Liori has convinced me, so I've deleted my previous vote.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-28 10:43
What has convinced you the most ? The fact that I think "Sun" should be capitalised when mentioned among other celestial bodies or that, unlike Jim Breen, I think "congregation" is an improper term to qualify the audience at a catholic mass ? Which of the 2 is the biggest of my crimes, according to you ?
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Demetrius
2012-12-28 12:23
It’s not a matter of crime. You did no crimes, I’m really grateful to you for your contibutions.

The problem is that you seem to discourage a lot of people from participating. I understand that it’s impossible to keep everyone happy, but I didn’t know the list was so big until liori said it:

> u2fs, pandark, qdii, Pharamp,
> FeudRenais, alphafour, Swift, Shiawase
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sacredceltic
2012-12-28 12:33
Yes, I discourage a handful of teenagers who were unhappy that I correct their sentences and that - in the case of FeuDRenais - I denounce their impersonation of a nationality they don't have although they say they have it because they like to play.

But unlike qdii, I don't set up websites to disparage contributors, and unlike u2fs, I don't insult the nationality of people.
Neither did I ever call for the murder of "purists" nor mock esperanto-speakers, the way you did...

The fact is, that whatever you do, you attract both admirers and hatemongers. And the more you do, the more you get.
I am one of the top contributors on tatoeba with 320.000+ contributions.
If you just divide that number by the number of people that hate me and do the same with your own numbers, I'm sure your rate is above mine...
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Demetrius
2012-12-28 12:43
This post is a nice demonstration of what is wrong with your attitude. :)
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sysko
2012-12-28 14:19
[moderated]

I've deleted the answered to that post as the discussion was going off-topic and started to be more suitable to private message conversation.
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shanghainese
2012-12-28 17:16
IMHO Freedom and new public responsibility can be very helpful for Sacredceltic's curbing of any features he is presently blamed for.

In case of the status abuse, the appointee can be demoted anytime, no?

My vote for Sacredceltic, positive.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-28 18:15
Thanks. Actually NO abuse of ANY right associated with my current status has EVER been reproached to me.
All these critics are purely resentments against comments that are absolutely IRRELEVANT to this status, unlike many other ACTUAL Corpus Maintainers who have REPEATEDLY infringed the rules and changed sentences they don't own and unlinked or linked sentences without ANY justification.
Of course, when I denounce these behaviours, they will pack and make sure I can never challenge their own powers. In French, we name this phenomenon "le réflexe de la meute". It's typical corporatism that hires people that resemble them and never utter a word about their internal mispractices.

Their main problem is : I open my mouth and confront them.
I will continue to do so regardless of my status.

Their second problem is : I spend my time translating rather than fomenting hatred (I just can't believe that cliques go as far as setting up websites to collect my debates, it's just beyond me, especially when you analyse the ocntents of what they collect !)

Just make a little statistic :
count the contributions of the people who supported my candidacy here, and count the contributions of those who oppose it.

You will easily come to this conclusion : the less they contribute the more they oppose those who do.

In Tatoeba as in life, there are those who mainly do things, and those who mainly criticize the work of the former.

I'm very proud that large contributors of exquisite quality such as alexmarcelo, Shishir, duran, Amastan, hayastan, Pfirsichbaeumchen, MrShoval, Muiriel and yourself value my work here. I know there are many others.
I got fascinating conversations with many of them and that makes my day, everyday.
Languages are a passion for me and I intend,
regardless of critics, to continue contributing to the project at the same or a even a higher rate and quality in the future for what's left of my life, because I think it's worth it.
marcelostockle
2012-12-28 19:56
I'd like to recommend danepo as corpus maintainer, if he agrees.
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alexmarcelo
2012-12-28 20:09
I just think you should create a new thread...
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marcelostockle
2012-12-28 20:17
No can do now ^^'

By the way, I support sacredceltic as corpus maintainer
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alexmarcelo
2012-12-28 20:23
I see. As for danepo, I have no reservations. There are no corpus maintainers for Danish and he's been doing a great job.
herrsilen
2012-12-28 20:34
+1
FeuDRenais
2012-12-29 20:48
I'm going to try to kill a whole nest of birds with a single stone, so here goes...

1) Sacredceltic as Corpus Maintainer.

Personally... No, no, and a thousand times no. All personal squabbles aside, too many users have left Tatoeba because of him, either directly or indirectly. That being said, he IS a good contributor and would be a good corpus maintainer if only he could not speak... Is there a script for that?

More seriously, this really depends on what Tatoeba aims to become. If the quality of a user is judged by cold statistics, then Sacredceltic should be promoted without question. If Tatoeba hopes to be a community with some code of ethics, morals, and respect for other users, then absolutely not. If the goal is to have a diverse community, then absolutely yes, as Sacredceltic is certainly a character (in a good way) and fills an important niche.

In the end, this is entirely a question for Sysko to decide, but my vote (whatever it be worth) is unsurprisingly against. I wish Trang were here to contribute to the discussion, but it looks like she's left (very unfortunately).

2) Aliases

The aliases that Sacredceltic has listed are not me. It's true that I've created multiple IDs before, and here they are: dimasadventures, ixchi, TFO, qilich_omer. I don't remember ever once using them to try to fool anyone, though. Mostly, I used them as a means of contributing without getting involved in the "politics" of Tatoeba (let's call them that).

3) Corrections to my sentences

I've been irresponsibly away for over a year now (and will probably be away for another year) and have just left a lot of sentences in limbo. Sorry about that, and thanks to those who have corrected/discussed them. I don't agree with all of the changes, so you'll probably hear from me on those very soon. I'll do a quick run through and will make a better effort to reply to comments in the future.
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sacredceltic
2012-12-30 12:02
>The aliases that Sacredceltic has listed are not me. It's true that I've created multiple IDs before, and here they are: dimasadventures, ixchi, TFO, qilich_omer. I don't remember ever once using them to try to fool anyone, though. Mostly, I used them as a means of contributing without getting involved in the "politics" of Tatoeba (let's call them that).

Qui vole un œuf, vole un bœuf !
sysko
2012-12-30 13:31
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