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It would be great if we could search all the sentences contributed by non-native speakers for a given language. I believe it's not that difficult to implement.
Speaking of which, I realized that the (native) indication on the side of the author does not appear in the results page of the advanced search. I don't remember if it was mentioned before.
[EDIT] Oh, actually it doesn't appear in any page where several sentences are displayed.
@odexed @Aiji I opened tickets for the things both of you said:
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1663
https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1664
Thank you.
Whether or not you think the functionality would be difficult to implement, you have a better chance of making it happen if you can explain what you want to do with it and why the current interface doesn't serve your needs.
It would be useful for our corpus maintainers. We usually check the newest sentences but the old contributions usually remain unchecked. Moreover, sometimes it's hard to find 1-2 non-native sentences among the latest contributions.
Not that I want to argue about whether we should implement this feature or not, but I’m curious about the way you proofread sentences. I am not a corpus maintainer, so I don’t know what it takes to proofread many many sentences.
As a native speaker of French, I almost only add French sentences, but it doesn’t mean they are free of errors. I regularly get comments about mistakes here and there. It’s mostly more about orthography than naturalness, but still. This makes me think that the amount of trust I’d put in a sentence has more to do with the number and quality of proofreads than the nativeness of the author.
So my point is: shouldn’t sentences be equally checked whether they are from native speakers or not?
> So my point is: shouldn’t sentences be equally checked whether they are from native speakers or not?
Certainly!
> This makes me think that the amount of trust I’d put in a sentence has more to do with the number and quality of proofreads than the nativeness of the author.
It is certainly reasonable, however I think the sentences created by non-native speakers should be checked first. It's not only because they tend to make more mistakes or create more sentences that sound awkward ( as well said in #1907470 )
It's also because non-native sentences that have an OK tag or that are marked as "OK" (i.e. proofread) look more solid and confident so they become more useful.
I agree. It makes sense to focus first on sentences by people who self-identify as having a level lower than the highest possible. They can make not only the mistakes that native speakers might make (such as misspellings), but other ones as well.
Note that another advantage of this feature is that flag errors will be easier to notice since they are mostly by non-natives.
I hope it will be implemented soon.
It could be implemented into the Advanced Search. We have:
"Owned by a self-identified native"
We could have the opposite, too. "Owned by a user who does not have the corresponding language added to their profile."
It would DEFINITELY help in correcting wrong-flag errors.