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morbrorper morbrorper 11 tuntia sitten 10. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 9.51 link Ikilinkki

I wish there was a way to easily flag links to translations as being questionable. That would cover the case where a linked translation is correct as a sentence, but does not mean the same as the original sentence.

Of course one could go and write a comment on each questionable translation, but it is quite tedious, and it is easy to get sidetracked in the process. Or, as an advanced contributor, one could simply unlink the offending translations, but then nobody would probably notice.

I have seen the "unlink" tag, but I don't think a tag is enough.

See sentence #807032 for a current example.

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deniko deniko 11 tuntia sitten 10. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 10.13 link Ikilinkki

What I normally do is the following.

I take notice who was the one to create the link. for example, #1508983 was linked by marcelostockle - you can see that in the logs. In this case it's a relatively simple case, he added his sentence as a translation. So I comment under his sentence asking him to verify his translation.

Sometimes it's more complicated than that. Sentence A and sentence B were added independently, and then someone linked them. In this case I comment under any of those tagging the person who linked them and asking them to verify the link.

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morbrorper morbrorper 6 tuntia sitten 10. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 14.55 link Ikilinkki

I do something similar, but it is rather difficult to keep track of the sentences I have remarked on in this way. At least there is a page with all my sentence reviews, but no such thing for my translation review.

I wish some of this could be automated somehow, with notifications going out to those involved.

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 4 päivää sitten 6. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 12.46 link Ikilinkki

Bulgarian has been added as a User Interface language on dev Tatoeba.

Thanks a lot to the user ls404 who has been working hard and translating the entire website.

The last language enabled on dev website was Serbian, thanks to lazarljubenovic (Lazar on Transifex).

In case you want/wish/can help us to translate the UI into your native language, please let me know :) you can leave me a private message, email me - ricardo14@tatoeba.org or simply creating an account on Transifex and going through https://www.transifex.com/tatoe...ite/dashboard/

Thank you!

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Ricardo14 Ricardo14 eilen 9. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 17.30 link Ikilinkki

Update: Uyghur has been added as well on dev Tatoeba.

AdamAvramovic AdamAvramovic 4 päivää sitten 6. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 13.56 link Ikilinkki

Any chance Neapolitan being implemented?

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CK CK 4 päivää sitten 6. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 18.29 link Ikilinkki

language code: nap

See https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...nguage-request .

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 eilen 9. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 17.24 link Ikilinkki

@Adam, I just left you a private message.

TRANG TRANG 9 päivää sitten, muokattu 9 päivää sitten 30. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 22.44, muokattu 30. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 22.45 link Ikilinkki

** What's New on Tatoeba? - Your biweekly recap #20 **

(What's New on Tatoeba will be published biweekly until the end of August.)


EVENT

It's been now one month since our Kodoeba event[1] started.

※ As far as the internal code goes:

• Our participants[2] have solved five issues, and seven others are on their way. You can find the details on GitHub[3].
• Alexs has asked for feedback about the tags: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35555. Be sure to share your thoughts if you'd like to see the tags in Tatoeba become more useful!

※ As for the external projects:

• lbdx has updated Tatominer: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35527.
• The other projects are starting to take shape, it's still too early to showcase anything. We'll have to wait until mid or end of July.

[1] https://blog.tatoeba.org/2020/0...kodoeba-1.html
[2] https://blog.tatoeba.org/2020/0...ticipants.html
[3] https://github.com/orgs/Tatoeba/projects/1


UPDATES

※ The search has been improved for languages using Arabic scripts, Indonesian and Tagalog. Many thanks to Yorwba.

※ The number of messages in the private messages has been localized, thanks to Ricardo14.

※ There's now a reset icon in the inputs of the advanced search. Thanks to Roverandom789133 for adding this.

※ We no longer unnecessarily store IPs in our contributions logs. Thanks to jpear1 for cleaning this up.


ON THE WALL

※ Trang has been working on making the landing page responsive: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35464

※ gillux has asked which sentences would be a good candidate to print on a Tatoeba T-shirt or mug: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35547

※ tommg has announced the release of his language learning app that uses Tatoeba's data: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35512


LANGUAGES

※ Rircardo14 posted some updates about the progress of the translation of our UI: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35518.

※ A new UI language has been enabled on the dev website: Serbian.

※ As usual, thanks to all the members who helped to translate the website!


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If you'd like to help to the development of Tatoeba, report issues, or are just curious, have a look at the GitHub repository.

If you want to help us translate the website to your language, you can join us on Transifex: https://www.transifex.com/tatoe...ite/dashboard/ and check this article on the wiki https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...e-translation.

If you're especially happy with one of the updates, don't hesitate to personally thank our developers :) They're working in the shadow but they'll be glad to hear your feedback.

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Last recap: https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/show_message/35504
See this recap on the blog: http://blog.tatoeba.org/2020/06...weekly_30.html

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samir_t samir_t 6 päivää sitten 4. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 21.03 link Ikilinkki

I would like to know why the FAQ is not published in the Kabyle interface although the translation is finished on Transifex.

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TRANG TRANG 6 päivää sitten 4. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 21.39 link Ikilinkki

Translating wiki content through Transifex is a new process. In this case, we simply didn't pay enough attention and we missed the Transifex notifications about how the FAQ was fully translated into Kabyle. So it was simply forgotten (sorry!).

The wiki is a separate application than the tatoeba.org website. The UI languages available on the wiki are actually not in sync with the languages available on tatoeba.org. Currently, the wiki doesn't support Kabyle yet. We first have to add it as a supported language then we have to manually add the Kabyle translations.

But in any case, we will make sure the Kabyle translation of the FAQ is made available soon :) Thanks for reporting it and thanks for translating!

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samir_t samir_t 5 päivää sitten 5. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 0.15 link Ikilinkki

Thanks.

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TRANG TRANG eilen 9. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 14.33 link Ikilinkki

It's online now: https://kab.wiki.tatoeba.org/articles/show/faq

I have a couple of questions:

(1) What would be a translation of "main" (or "main page") in Kabyle?

For instance, the URL of the English main page is like this:
https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/articles/show/main

While for French it's "page-principale" instead of "main":
https://fr.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...age-principale

For each language the name in the URL is in the language itself. For now, I have named the Kabyle page "main" but it would be more suitable to have a string in Kabyle.

(2) Same question for the FAQ URL. Is it fine to leave it as "faq" or is there another acronym in Kabyle?

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Ricardo14 Ricardo14 eilen 9. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 17.19 link Ikilinkki

samir_t replied on another thread - https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/sh...#message_35614

"The translation of "main" in Kabyle is "agejdan".

As for the FAQ URL, it would be better to leave it as "faq".

Thanks."

https://prnt.sc/tevi8q

samir_t samir_t eilen, muokattu eilen 9. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 14.56, muokattu 9. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 14.56 link Ikilinkki

The translation of "main" in Kabyle is "agejdan".

As for the FAQ URL, it would be better to leave it as "faq".

Thanks.

CK CK 2 päivää sitten 8. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 9.25 link Ikilinkki

493,678 English Sentences with Audio from the Tatoeba Project

http://study.aitech.ac.jp/sentences/ck/audio/

This is something that I put together for my own students. Perhaps some of you may find it interesting.

The first 36,196 sentences have Japanese translations by native Japanese speakers, followed by 457,482 sentences without.

I updated this today.

On my last update three years ago, on July 8, 2017, there were 295,424 audio files.

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yatomoya yatomoya 2 päivää sitten 8. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 15.31 link Ikilinkki

Epic work!

CK CK 4 päivää sitten 6. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 19.23 link Ikilinkki

We have a new Russian voice.

yatomoya

You can listen to his voice here.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...how/166724/und

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AlanF_US AlanF_US 3 päivää sitten 7. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 11.10 link Ikilinkki

Sounds good!

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yatomoya yatomoya 3 päivää sitten 7. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 14.15 link Ikilinkki

^.^

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 3 päivää sitten 7. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 19.45 link Ikilinkki

Great news!

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yatomoya yatomoya 2 päivää sitten 8. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 6.04 link Ikilinkki

Привет! С:

fjay69 fjay69 2 päivää sitten, muokattu 2 päivää sitten 8. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 3.58, muokattu 8. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 3.59 link Ikilinkki

Отлично!

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yatomoya yatomoya 2 päivää sitten 8. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 6.06 link Ikilinkki

Давайте обгоним французский)

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fjay69 fjay69 2 päivää sitten 8. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 6.09 link Ikilinkki

Давайте для начала обгоним венгерский, а там как пойдёт)

CK CK 31. toukokuuta 2020 klo 4.26 31. toukokuuta 2020 klo 4.26 link Ikilinkki

I think it might be a good idea to eliminate the question mark (?) wildcard for searching.

I think that users should be able to paste in any sentence in the search form and get a result if the sentence is in the database. This doesn't happen now for sentences with question marks.

I think this usefulness far outweighs the usefulness of the one-letter wildcard.

If you're a member of this website and frequently use the ? wildcard, perhaps you could tell us how often and whether you'd be greatly inconvenienced if this were removed.

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gillux gillux 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 7.02 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 7.02 link Ikilinkki

This is not something easy to implement at all. The question mark is not a searchable character in the first place.

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CK CK 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 7.16, muokattu 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 10.31 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 7.16, muokattu 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 10.31 link Ikilinkki

How about just disabling the question mark as a wildcard and ignore it in searches?

We can get both "Mr Smith" and "Mr. Smith" with this search.

https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...uery=Mr.+Smith

Not getting results for sentences with question marks seems strange, since question marks are a part of language, and this is a website dealing with language.

It doesn't bother me that the question mark itself isn't searchable, but it does bother me that if you search for something as simple as the following, it appears that we don't yet have it.

Why are you doing that?
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...rom=und&to=und

It's not really intuitive for new visitors to avoid using question marks. I've been on this site a long time and even I often have to do searches more than once because I forget to leave off the question marks..

Question marks are allowed when doing Google searches which a lot of people are used to using.



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gillux gillux 3. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 16.38, muokattu 3. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 16.38 3. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 16.38, muokattu 3. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 16.38 link Ikilinkki

This is probably not something easy to implement. The question mark and the star are one single feature of Manticore. As a result, we can only enable both the question mark and the star or none of them.

Thanuir Thanuir 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 9.31 1. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 9.31 link Ikilinkki

Olen tästä samaa mieltä CK:n kanssa. En kylläkään ole hakutoiminnon tehokäyttäjä.

orion17 orion17 2. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.48, muokattu 2. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.49 2. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.48, muokattu 2. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.49 link Ikilinkki

Please don't remove this feature. I always use this feature every time I search Arabic sentences, because Arabic morphology is really inflected. It involves not only suffixes, but prefixes and infixes as well. The search engine used in Tatoeba doesn't seem work 100% to search Arabic words. For example I try to find sentences containing word "علم" but it shows only words with suffixes like علمت, علموا, علمه, and so on. It doesn't show words like يعلم or تعلم. When I tried to search sentences containing "يعلم", it shows words like يعلمون as well. There are no words like تعلم, نعلم, or أعلم. But, when I type "علم?" I will find them.
This feature also helps me to find words in pattern with different root, since Arabic is from Semitic languages.
For example it helps me to search any sentences containing word with pattern like مفعول. I can type in the search box like this:
م??و?
and it'll show sentences containing words like مبروك مسرور مفتوح مشغول مجنون and so on.

And for your information, I asked this feature years ago here https://tatoeba.org/eng/wall/sh...#message_22849 and it really helps me a lot since then.

gillux gillux 3. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 17.23 3. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 17.23 link Ikilinkki

I have given some more thoughts about this problem. I think we can make use of another feature of Manticore (blended characters) to make the search engine find the sentence that you want. Question marks used in the search query would both be treated as a wildcard and as a normal character. In other words, searching for "Is she?" would return the sentence "Is she?" as well as sentences containing "is shed". Giving shorter sentences appear first by default, copy pasting an interrogative sentence in the search box should let you find it right away.

I will update dev with that setting tomorrow to let you guys try it out.

On a side note, the percent character (%) is also a wildcard that means "zero or one character". As a result, searching for "100%" currently matches sentences containing 1000.

gillux gillux 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.03, muokattu 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.03 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.03, muokattu 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 8.03 link Ikilinkki

I updated https://dev.tatoeba.org/ with an experiment setting to solve the problem of not finding sentences when searching for interrogative questions.

orion17, could you also try and let me know if it causes any problem when you search for "علم?" and the like?

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orion17 orion17 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 13.12, muokattu 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 13.16 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 13.12, muokattu 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 13.16 link Ikilinkki

I have tried and it still works, except that I just wonder why the results on dev are fewer than those on main tatoeba.

I forgot to mention on my earlier post that when I searched for verb "علم", it did show also sentences containing words with prefixes like العلم, ‎معلم and so on. However, it showed neither the present tense forms (يعلم تعلم نعلم أعلم) nor the imperative form (اعلم)
Therefore, I need to use a question mark to find one. But this prevents me to find this kind of words with suffixes, then I write ‏*?علم*‏ and it shows exactly what I want like يعلمون

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gillux gillux 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 16.18 4. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 16.18 link Ikilinkki

> the results on dev are fewer than those on main tatoeba

The corpus of dev is an old copy of the main Tatoeba, so it only contains old sentences.

> it showed neither the present tense forms (يعلم تعلم نعلم أعلم) nor the imperative form (اعلم)

I suspect that’s because only words with 4 characters or more can be found using a different tense or form. "علم" is only 3 characters long.

This limitation is rather arbitrary and is set because the search engine documentation suggests the stemmer may have problems dealing with short words https://docs.manticoresearch.co...n-stemming-len I think we could consider removing the 4 characters limit.

gillux gillux 4 päivää sitten 6. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 12.13 link Ikilinkki

It’s now possible to search for entire questions on tatoeba.org.

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CK CK 4 päivää sitten 6. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 12.33 link Ikilinkki

Thanks.

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 4 päivää sitten 6. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 12.39 link Ikilinkki

Whoa! Thank you!

mraz mraz 11 päivää sitten 29. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 7.35 link Ikilinkki

#415587 < red

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Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen 11 päivää sitten, muokattu 11 päivää sitten 29. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 9.46, muokattu 29. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 9.47 link Ikilinkki

Ich habe den Satz und vier andere, die morbrorper adoptiert hat, freigeschaltet. Das nächstemal reicht auch ein Kommentar mit „@Pfirsichbaeumchen“ oder eine Privatnachricht. 🙂

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mraz mraz 11 päivää sitten 29. kesäkuuta 2020 klo 9.53 link Ikilinkki

OK! Danke schön!

morbrorper morbrorper 5 päivää sitten 5. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 11.05 link Ikilinkki

Vielen Dank!

CK CK 6 päivää sitten 4. heinäkuuta 2020 klo 3.36 link Ikilinkki

** Number of Sentences 2020-07-04, 2019-07-04 and 2018-07-04 **

https://imgur.com/a/BI3iGix

Screenshots of http://tatoeba.org/stats/sentences_by_language