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Cumle #3592386

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Açarnayîşî
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{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Cumleya mewcûde #{{::translation.id}} sey açarnayîşêk amê îlawekerdene.
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Açarnayîşanê açarnayîşan
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{{translation.furigana.info_message}} {{translation.text}} Cumleya mewcûde #{{::translation.id}} sey açarnayîşêk amê îlawekerdene.
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{{vm.expandableIcon}} {{vm.sentence.expandLabel}} Hîna tay açarnayîşî

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tommy_san tommy_san October 29, 2014 October 29, 2014 at 8:24:19 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

話(はなし)してる

small_snow small_snow July 5, 2020 July 5, 2020 at 6:08:38 AM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@CK

フリガナを直して欲しいです。「はな」-->「はなし」へ
そして、audioですが「おはなししてるの」に聞こえる気がします。

small_snow small_snow July 5, 2020 July 5, 2020 at 6:33:00 AM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

ありがとうございます。
#8893154 みんな何のお話してるの?

bunbuku bunbuku July 5, 2020 July 5, 2020 at 12:07:51 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@CK, @small_snow

As for me, I can hear "何のはなし", not "何のおはなし".
I'd like to know other people's opinions.

small_snow small_snow July 5, 2020, July 5, 2020 de ame/ê pergalkerdene July 5, 2020 at 12:12:15 PM UTC, July 5, 2020 at 1:04:05 PM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@bunbuku

「お」がはいってませんか?
「みんななんのおはなししてるの」
の[no]の母音の続きに聞こえなくもないのですが....

bunbuku bunbuku July 5, 2020 July 5, 2020 at 1:01:46 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

個人的には「の (no) 」の母音「o」が影響してるのかなと思ってます。

bunbuku bunbuku July 5, 2020, July 5, 2020 de ame/ê pergalkerdene July 5, 2020 at 1:21:23 PM UTC, July 5, 2020 at 1:30:33 PM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

どんな言語でも当てはまると思うんだけど、クリアな発音をする人と、そうでない人はいますよ。ニュースのアンカーとか、アナウンサーはとても聞き取りやすい発音をするのは、もちろんお分かりですよね。声質とか、発音の癖とか、息継ぎとか、アクセントの微妙な違いとか、プロじゃない人は色々影響が出ちゃうのかも。

録音した本人に確認できるといいんですけどね。

Pfirsichbaeumchen Pfirsichbaeumchen July 5, 2020, July 5, 2020 de ame/ê pergalkerdene July 5, 2020 at 4:54:21 PM UTC, July 5, 2020 at 4:56:00 PM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@move audio to #8893154 (?)

フリガナを直しました。

small_snow small_snow July 6, 2020 July 6, 2020 at 12:16:00 AM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@Pfirsichbaeumchen
フリガナの変更をありがとうござました。

small_snow small_snow July 6, 2020, July 6, 2020 de ame/ê pergalkerdene July 6, 2020 at 12:16:43 AM UTC, July 6, 2020 at 12:17:02 AM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@bunbuku

>もちろんお分かりですよね。
昨日、日本語のAudioを確認しました。
https://tatoeba.org/jpn/audio/index/jpn
私がCKへ確認をお願いしたのは、4件/1,283件でした。
それを多いと思われるか少ないと思われるかはあなた次第だと思います。

また、私が最終的にCKにその確認を依頼したのは、Audioの管理をされているという事だけでなく、音に関して精通されていると思ったからです。
恐縮ながら補足をさせていただきます。

bunbuku bunbuku July 6, 2020, July 6, 2020 de ame/ê pergalkerdene July 6, 2020 at 12:46:46 AM UTC, July 6, 2020 at 12:51:40 AM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@small_snow

確認依頼をした4件がどれなのかはわかりませんが、コメントのログで見かけた
[#2780857], [#3116527], [#2225499] に関しては私も同意見です。
(1,283件の確認作業!お疲れ様です。)

ただ、日本語の音声発音に関しては、CKに一任するより、やはりもっと他の日本語ネイティブの意見を参考にした方がいいような気がします。意見が分かれてしまったときはAdminsに判断を委ねるしかありませんが。

#2740698 トムの住所知ってる?
CKには「じょうしょ」に聞こえてるようですが、tommy_sanは「じゅうしょ」に聞こえてますし、私もそう聞こえます。こういうこともありましたよ…。

small_snow small_snow July 6, 2020 July 6, 2020 at 1:11:45 AM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

@bunbuku

>CKに一任するより、
「最終的に」って言ってるんだけどな。まぁ、いいや。了解しました。

CK CK July 6, 2020 July 6, 2020 at 1:24:56 AM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

> 録音した本人に確認できるといいんですけどね。

This voice is someone tommy_san found who was practicing to be a voice actor, so I don't think we can ask her.

@tommy_san
What's your opinion? Is there an お, or not?

CK CK September 26, 2021, September 26, 2021 de ame/ê pergalkerdene September 26, 2021 at 7:14:58 AM UTC, September 26, 2021 at 7:56:35 AM UTC de ame/ê pergalkerdene flag Report link Lînko payîdar

I've listened to this multiple times and sometimes I hear the お and sometimes I don't. :(

However, I didn't really hear the お, until I read the comments.

I've added the same audio to the following. Maybe we can make a decision in the future.

[#8893154] みんな何のお話してるの? (small_snow) *audio*

I'm willing to unlink either audio file if a consensus can be reached.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez September 26, 2021 September 26, 2021 at 1:56:20 PM UTC flag Report link Lînko payîdar

I personally don't ever hear the お

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