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 GrizaLeono GrizaLeono November 18, 2011 November 18, 2011 at 1:32:22 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Mankas la rekta objekto: nin

martinod martinod November 18, 2011 November 18, 2011 at 2:39:49 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

La rekta objekto estas "esti".

Tlustulimu Tlustulimu November 18, 2011 November 18, 2011 at 2:46:45 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Se mi legas en Nova PIV, mi devas diri, ke GrizaLeono pravas. Do Nova PIV mencias frazojn, kiel ekzemple:
* Li ŝajnigas sin riĉa, havante nenion. (Zamenhof)
* Malsana li ŝajnigis sin. (Zamenhof)
Do mi pensas, ke devus esti:
"Ni ŝajnigu nin fremduloj."
La ekzemplaj frazoj estas parte eĉ Zamenhofaj, sed mi ne emas citi ĉiujn.

martinod martinod November 18, 2011 November 18, 2011 at 5:47:52 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Ĉu vi ankaŭ legis la ekzemplojn en PIV sub numero 2? La ekzemploj kun subfrazo anstataŭ nomo kiel rekta objekto? Estas neniu ekzemplo kun infinitivo, sed frazoj kun "ke" aŭ "kvazaŭ" neniam entenas ion kiel "Li ŝajnigis sin ke..."

martinod martinod November 18, 2011 November 18, 2011 at 5:50:25 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

La frazo kun "esti" estas bona, sed alia eblo estas (sen "esti") "Ni ŝajnigu nin fremduloj."

GrizaLeono GrizaLeono November 18, 2011 November 18, 2011 at 6:28:20 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

Jes. Mi prenis la nederlandan frazon kiel modelon, sed mi konsentas pri la klarigo de Martinod.
Dankon.

al_ex_an_der al_ex_an_der November 18, 2011 November 18, 2011 at 6:43:35 PM UTC flag Report link Permalink

>Ni ŝajnigu esti fremduloj.<
Tio estas la pli eleganta solvo, ĉu ne?

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #395156Laten we doen alsof we vreemdelingen zijn..

Ni ŝajnigu esti fremduloj.

added by koosscharroo, August 2, 2010
➜ #395156Laten we doen alsof we vreemdelingen zijn.

linked by koosscharroo, August 2, 2010
➜ #395093Давай притворимся, что мы пришельцы.

linked by martinod, November 18, 2011