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Aiji
13 часов назад
There is a strange bug on the comments under #986729 No name, no link to profile but the comments are still there.
CK
CK
2018-06-28 05:57 - 2018-06-28 06:32
We now have over 440,000 sentences with audio files.

You can see the number for each language on the right side of this page.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/audio/index

You can see lists, sorted by contributors with this link.
The lists with the most recent additions are at the top.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc...direction:desc

It you, too, are interested in adding audio in your own native language, see http://bit.ly/shtooka.
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CK
CK
22 дней назад
We now have over 455,000 sentences with audio files, up 15,000 since 4 weeks ago.

This is a list of members who have contributed audio files in the past 4 weeks.

deu - by moskytoo
eng - by CK
epo - by vekiano
fin- by tadaa25
por - by Ricardo14
por - by Voz
por- by aleteacher2
rus - by Alex_M
ukr- by oromashka
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CK
CK
вчера
We now have over 460,000 sentences with audio files, up 5,000 since 3 weeks ago.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/audio/index

These are the members who have added audio files in the last three weeks.

https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/8046/und
kab - SAmiri

https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/8051/und
kab- Yazid_Bouhamam

https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/7911/und
por- by aleteacher2

https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/8050/und
deu - quicksanddiver

https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/4000/und
eng - CK


If you are interested in contributing audio in your own native language, see this page.
http://bit.ly/shtooka
Pfirsichbaeumchen
7 дня назад
New Advanced Contributor Candidate
Nova kandidato por iĝi progresinta kontribuanto

♦ Amazigh_Bedar: https://tatoeba.org/user/profile/Amazigh_Bedar

As usual, please feel free to share your opinions. Send us a message using the link below. Advanced contributors can link and tag sentences.

Kiel kutime ni petas, ke vi ne hezitu sciigi nin pri via opinio. Bonvolu uzi la suban ligilon por sendi mesaĝon al ni. Progresintaj kontribuantoj povas ligi kaj etiketi frazojn.

Link (ligilo): http://tatoeba.org/private_mess...rsichbaeumchen
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belkacem77
вчера - вчера
We were thinking about it.

Bedar should be our admin as he was studying Kabyle/Amazigh language at the University.

As he knows well the rules (kabyle language), we encourage him to be our admin.

We need someone to manage our team.

Yes I vote for Bedar
SAmiri
вчера
As Amazigh_Bedar is contributing very well, as he knows the kabyle language and its rules,
as our team need an admin,

Me too i vote for Amazigh_Bedar
AlanF_US
вчера
I'm glad to see this level of interest. However, when Pfirsichbaeumchen wrote "As usual, please feel free to share your opinions. Send us a message using the link below", I think she meant "please feel free to share your opinions by sending us a message using the link below." In other words, it's our policy not to have these discussions on the Wall, but via messages with Pfirsichbaeumchen.

One other point: both belkacem77 and SAmiri wrote that Bedar knows the rules of the Kabyle language. However, a key point is that a candidate for advanced contributor needs to know not only the rules of the language, but also the rules and guidelines of the site. These may take a while to learn to the degree that an advanced contributor requires. If you want to recommend that someone be made an advanced contributor, please offer evidence that the candidate understands how Tatoeba works, and that the candidate interacts well with other members of our community. As evidence, you can analyze the candidate's history of contributions (sentences, translations, comments), and the history of other people's comments on their sentences. Both are accessible from the candidate's user profile.
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AlanF_US
вчера
For rules and guidelines, see the wiki:

https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/articles/show/main#
Aiji
вчера - вчера
[Espace avant les signes de ponctuation en français]
En français, les signes ponctuation composées doivent être précédés (suivis dans le cas du «) d'une espace insécable.
Actuellement, on peut trouver quatre cas dans le corpus de Tatoeba :
- pas d'espace
- une espace "standard" (le plus courant dans le corpus)
- une espace insécable
- une espace fine insécable
On peut considérer les deux premiers cas comme des cas incorrects, et les deux derniers comme des cas corrects.

Il est possible de « corriger » toutes ces phrases en insérant l'espace adéquate via un script (environ 50 000 phrases, sans compter celles comprenant des guillemets) . Enfin, quant à quelle espace choisir, les officiels n'étant eux-mêmes pas d'accord entre eux, insérer des espaces fines insécables, en plus d'être ce qui se fait généralement, permettrait d'éviter les doublons (environ 200 phrases).

En attendant d'avoir une solution automatisée à l'insertion, une telle opération impliquerait de voir vos phrases se faire massivement corrigées. Cela passerait totalement inaperçu pour tout le monde et SEULES les espaces se verraient corrigées ou ajoutées. Vous pourrez continuer à contribuer normalement comme vous le faites tout le temps (avec les espaces que vous voulez !)

Une telle opération touchant beaucoup de gens, je demande vos avis ou remarques, positifs ou négatifs (pour / contre, oui mais non, etc.)

@nimfeo @sacredceltic @Rovo @Micsmithel @gillux @GB3 et tous les contributeurs qui ont un avis !

Merci !
Objectivesea
6 дня назад
DISPLAY ISSUE

It would be nice if the display window for sentences could be made slightly bigger to accommodate the display of accented capital letters like the Ĉ, Ĝ, Ĥ, Ĵ, Ŝ and Ŭ of Esperanto, as well as the German letters Ä, Ö and Ü. Other languages also sometimes need to display capital letters with accents, such as É, Û, À and many others. With the current font and the current window for displaying the sentence in each language, these accents are often not visible even when I take care to make sure that I've typed the needed accents in the course of creating my original or translated sentence.

In Sentence #7056520, for example, my Tatoeba friend @danepo just reminded me that the sentence “Ĉu vi ne estas kanadano?” should begin with the circumflexed ‘Ĉu’; obviously on his computer, the word was appearing as if it was ‘Cu’; i.e., without the needed circumflex, and he also was unable to see that the circumflex was already there.

Increasing the leading in messages like this might also be good, using a line-height of 120 or 130%. Currently this message seems to be set solid, and accented capital letters sometimes overlap with the descenders in letters like g, j, p, q, and y.
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AlanF_US
6 дня назад
On my machine, I can see the accents fine even when I reduce the size of the browser display. Maybe it would help if you could post screenshots of what you're seeing.
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sabretou
6 дня назад
The accents are rendering correctly for me as well.
Objectivesea
3 дня назад
DISPLAY ISSUE RESOLVED

The contributor @danepo apparently had the same issue as I, since he has complained about missing circumflexes when they are in fact there. But not everyone, apparently, experienced this anomaly.

I have good news. Since some people apparently were able to see the accented capital letters, I changed my Firefox preferences so that instead of having Helvetica as the default sans-serif font, it now uses Lucida Grande. Magically, everything now looks fine on my browser. I may suggest the same solution for user @danepo and for anyone else who experienced this annoying problem. By the way, Helvetica Neue and Arial also look fine; only the bog-standard Helvetica seems to have the display issue.

(For AlanF, I may also suggest that he can temporarily change his deault sans-serif font to Helvetica in order to recreate the problem. Then restore the setting to the previous chosen font.)
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AlanF_US
2 дня назад
Even after changing all my default fonts on Firefox (main default font, default sans-serif font, etc.) from Padauk to HelvLight, and on Chrome from Arial to HelvLight, I didn't experience the problem. However, it's good to know that if someone is experiencing such a problem, changing default fonts can make it go away.
Aiji
5 дня назад
It would help to know on what device and browser the issue occurs.
CK
CK
6 дня назад
** New Kabyle Voice **

SAmiri has added 185 Kabyle audio files.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/sentenc.../show/8046/und
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belkacem77
3 дня назад
Nice. Thanks Slimane
alexmarcelo
13 дней назад - 13 дней назад
Dear community,

Ricardo and I have been discussing the development of new flags for both Latin and Ancient Greek. The current Latin flag is just not as good as the others on Tatoeba, and the current Ancient Greek flag has little or nothing to do with Ancient Greece at all.

We'd like to know which flag you like best.

Below is a brief description of each candidate, followed by a preview.

Latin
(1) Current flag.
(2) Contains the SPQR (Senatus Populusque Romanus) inscription, the official name of the Roman Empire.
(3) Contains a laurel wreath, a symbol of victory for the ancient Romans.
(4) Contains the Colosseum, a symbol of Ancient Rome.

Check the Latin flags here: https://ibb.co/hzdaJz

Greek
(1) Current flag.
(2) Contains the front view of the Parthenon, as it once looked.
(3) Contains the front view of the Parthenon, as it looks today.

Check the Greek flags here: https://ibb.co/bxWvJz

The colors are not final.

You can also propose new suggestions if you like.

Thanks!
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sabretou
13 дней назад
I'm in favour of #2 for Latin and #2 for Ancient Greek.
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Guybrush88
13 дней назад
same here, both number 2s are the best for me
Shishir
13 дней назад
same
cueyayotl
13 дней назад
I'm in favor of #1 for Latin and #2 for Ancient Greek.
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Hybrid
13 дней назад
I agree.
Impersonator
13 дней назад
> current Ancient Greek flag has little or nothing to do with Ancient Greece at all.

For Latin, I find #1, #2, #3 equally fine.

For Greek, I’d prefer some combination of #2/#3 with a modern flag of Greece. Maybe a parthenon over a modern Greek flag, or a white parthenon over a blue field. Sure, Ancient Greece is not the same as Modern Greece, but the connection is quite straightforward.
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alexmarcelo
13 дней назад
> a white parthenon over a blue field.

I like this better. The other idea would be rather difficult to implement, considering the icon dimensions.
alexmarcelo
13 дней назад
This is the result:

https://ibb.co/gwPToz
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Impersonator
12 дней назад
Thanks! I really like this variant
CarpeLanam
8 дня назад
I like this as well.
Ricardo14
12 дней назад
#2 and #2 as well.
Ricardo14
9 дня назад
Update: I uploaded the elected flags (#2 and #2) on Github. Maybe Trang will upload them on Tatoeba next Sunday.

Pull Request - https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/pull/1639
Original Thread - https://github.com/Tatoeba/tatoeba2/issues/1634
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cueyayotl
9 дня назад
An important note, make sure that the inscription (SPQR) of the Latin flag is legible. I'm not sure if it was the contrast of colors or just the size of the letters, but I could not make them out as clearly as in the flag we already have for Latin. That being said, I DO like the colors of flag #2 much better than the colors of the flag we already have; I would just request to maybe increase the boldness of the letters a little bit.
Ricardo14
5 дня назад - 5 дня назад
Dear community,

As far as the flag chosen may not be readble for most of members, we (Alex and I) 'd suggest use the flag 3 since we have worked on some other combinations of flag #2 and the results seem to be the same

https://github.com/Tatoeba/tato...ment-412687493

What do you think?
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Impersonator
3 дня назад
I like the idea, but it’s hard to see that it’s a wreath. I’d suggest trying a wreath with less leaves, so that leaves are bigger and more visible.
Objectivesea
3 дня назад
From the point of view of vexillology, the simpler the design, the better. An ideal flag for a country, a sub-federal state or a city is one that can be easily recreated by a schoolchild. Lettering, like the giant "R" on the flag of Rwanda or the words "California Republic" on a state flag, should not be needed. The less busy and the more unique, the better.

I don't think "SPQR" should be on the newly constructed flag for Latin, because the meaning of the abbreviation is not well known. The wreath design, as in version 3, is lovely and appropriate, conveying deep respect, but it should have much better contrast. How about a deep Hunter Green for the wreath so that it looks more like real laurel leaves, and contrast it to a plain white background, perhaps with a thin green outline if the edge of the flag needs to be apparent on the white background of a page? Alternatively, you can reverse the colours and have the deep green (Pantone 19-5511, HTML #335749, or RGB 51 87 73) for the solid background with white laurel leaves showing in the foreground.

For the Ancient Greek, the Parthenon as it was in classic times (design 2) is clearly the best. As a concession to the modern inheritors of Greek culture, why not use the colours of the modern Greek flag? Make the Parthenon the pure white emblem, like polished marble, against a lovely blue solid background (Pantone 285, HTML #0072CE, or RGB 0 114 206), and you have the best of the old and the new.
Ricardo14
5 дня назад
Happy birthday, Lisa!!! (Pfirsichbaeumchen)
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Pfirsichbaeumchen
5 дня назад
Muito obrigada, Ricardo! 🙂
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raggione
4 дня назад
Blumenstrauß!
sabretou
4 дня назад
वाढदिवसाच्या हार्दिक शुभेच्छा, लिसा!
Guybrush88
4 дня назад
Happy birthday!
alexmarcelo
4 дня назад
Feliz aniversário, Lisa! :-)
soliloquist
5 дня назад
Removing ratings or tags on sentence page is possible, but lists isn't...

I would like to see a delete icon on sentence page for removing sentences from lists. Sometimes I need to remove a sentence from a list, but it can be done only by going to the list's page and finding the sentence to be removed. If the list is large and the sentence to be removed isn't on first pages, it becomes very difficult (and also puts extra load on server). It would be very easy if you put this functionality on sentence page. I think most of the users who work heavily with lists would agree with that.
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CK
CK
5 дня назад
Here is a "bookmarklet" that will do it for you.

Go to this page.
http://tatoeba.byethost3.com/re...okmarklet.html
Drag the link into your bookmarks bar.

You need to know the number of the list, which you can learn using a "mouse over" on the list name, if you have your status bar showing. This works on several browsers. I'm not sure you can find list numbers this way on all web browsers.


Google: "how to use bookmarklets"

https://www.google.com/search?q...hrome&ie=UTF-8
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soliloquist
4 дня назад
Thank you very much, CK. This is a great time saver.

I guess it's unofficial. Still, I think it would be better for users if Tatoeba had built-in support for that.

What I thought was something like this:

https://image.prntscr.com/image...6q8Iai6j1A.png
CK
CK
5 дня назад - 4 дня назад
** New Voices **

German - quicksanddiver
https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/8050/und

Kabyle - Yazid_Bouhamam
https://tatoeba.org/sentences_lists/show/8051/und

We now have 458,601 audio files.
https://tatoeba.org/eng/audio/index
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