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CK CK December 1, 2021 December 1, 2021 at 11:46:15 PM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

I wonder if both of these really match.

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Have you been studying French for a while?
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いつからフランス語勉強してるの?

sharptoothed sharptoothed December 2, 2021 December 2, 2021 at 5:11:02 PM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

The Russian matches the Japanese as far as I see but I doubt about the English.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez December 2, 2021 December 2, 2021 at 5:13:35 PM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

DeepL gives similar results as sharptoothed says:
"How long have you been learning French?"

CK CK December 3, 2021، ایڈت تھیا December 3, 2021 December 3, 2021 at 12:06:26 AM UTC، ایڈت تھیا December 3, 2021 at 12:07:53 AM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

@sharptoothed

Perhaps one or more of these can be linked.

[#4663785] How long have you been learning French? (CK) *audio*
[#2451305] How long have you been studying French? (CK) *audio*
[#2451368] When did you start studying French? (CK) *audio*
[#2451370] When did you begin studying French? (CK) *audio*

AlanF_US AlanF_US December 3, 2021 December 3, 2021 at 12:21:24 AM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

@sharptoothed, @marafon, @odexed

Are you sure that

Ты давно изучаешь французский?

does not match either of these?

Have you been studying French for long?
Have you been studying French for a while?

DJ_Saidez wrote:
> DeepL gives similar results as sharptoothed says:
> "How long have you been learning French?"

Actually, sharptoothed didn't give a translation, at least in this thread. He just said that he doubted that the Russian matched the English, but didn't elaborate. Any further comments would be welcome.

I can see how "How long have you been learning French?" can loosely overlap with "Have you been studying French for long?", so I can imagine that DeepL might equate the two, but I would not say they're the same thing.

CK CK December 3, 2021 December 3, 2021 at 12:31:04 AM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

> I can see how "How long have you been learning French?" can loosely overlap with "Have you been studying French for long?", ...

Further clarification ...

The former would be answered with a phrase like "For three years" or "Since I was thirteen years old." The latter would be answered with "yes" or "no."

AlanF_US AlanF_US December 3, 2021 December 3, 2021 at 12:51:08 AM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

Of course. But someone could also answer "Have you been studying French for long?" with "Yes, for three years" or "Yes, since I was thirteen years old." And perhaps the person asking the question was actually interested in getting the more extensive answer.

DJ_Saidez DJ_Saidez December 3, 2021، ایڈت تھیا December 3, 2021 December 3, 2021 at 4:26:23 AM UTC، ایڈت تھیا December 3, 2021 at 4:26:41 AM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

My turn for clarification

When I meant a similar result as sharptoothed, I meant that, when I put his Russian translation into DeepL and translated into English, it gave a sentence that matches the original Japanese in meaning

marafon marafon December 4, 2021، ایڈت تھیا December 4, 2021 December 4, 2021 at 3:43:14 PM UTC، ایڈت تھیا December 4, 2021 at 3:56:07 PM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

The questions of type "Ты давно...?" usually imply quite a precise answer like "For three years" or "Since I was ten". It's a common way to ask "How long" and I would translate it like that.

AlanF_US AlanF_US December 4, 2021 December 4, 2021 at 4:18:25 PM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

Thanks, @marafon. Based on your answer, I unlinked my sentences.

marafon marafon December 4, 2021 December 4, 2021 at 4:46:16 PM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

Well, I don't think they should be unlinked since I don't know how I would translate them otherwise :)

AlanF_US AlanF_US December 4, 2021 December 4, 2021 at 5:08:41 PM UTC flag Report link پرمالنک

Okay, I relinked them. :)

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This sentence was initially added as a translation of sentence #3498454いつからフランス語勉強してるの?.

Ты давно изучаешь французский?

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