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orion17 orion17 2020년 6월 3일, 수정된 때 2020년 6월 3일 2020년 6월 3일 오전 11시 55분 14초 UTC, 수정된 때 2020년 6월 3일 오후 12시 15분 40초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Is it permissible to add a sentence using spoken language? As long as it's still considered standard spoken language.

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Thanuir Thanuir 2020년 6월 3일 2020년 6월 3일 오후 1시 39분 16초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Kyllä. Suosittelen käyttämään sopivaa tunnistetta tai lisäämään kommentin, joka mainitsee, että kyseessä on puhekieli.

shekitten shekitten 2020년 6월 3일 2020년 6월 3일 오후 3시 10분 3초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

It's definitely permissible and is something I try to do a lot of. Ideally leave a comment saying that it is colloquial, and someone will add a tag who is able to do so. If no one does, feel free to message a corpus maintainer or advanced contributor.

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orion17 orion17 2020년 6월 4일 2020년 6월 4일 오후 12시 57분 56초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

It's sad when you said if no one does 😅

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shekitten shekitten 2020년 6월 4일 2020년 6월 4일 오후 1시 8분 18초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Usually it's just absent-mindedness or bad luck :D Also, once you've written 1000 sentences, please feel free to apply to be an advanced contributor so you can tag sentences: https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...d-contributors

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orion17 orion17 2020년 6월 4일 2020년 6월 4일 오후 1시 30분 13초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

That's interesting.. thanks for mentioning that for me.
It's been 7 years since I became a member here yet I only have 700 sentences so far, and am an ordinary contributor :D

Ricardo14 Ricardo14 2020년 6월 6일 2020년 6월 6일 오후 1시 9분 59초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

+1 - I do that always. Some of them are ungrammatical, so I tag them as "colloquial".

Aiji Aiji 2020년 6월 7일 2020년 6월 7일 오전 4시 35분 53초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I prefer to use the tag "spoken language" instead of colloquial since colloquial can be used in writing.

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Ricardo14 Ricardo14 2020년 6월 7일 2020년 6월 7일 오후 2시 16분 35초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Haven't thought about that :O Thank you! Going to use it from now one and little by little I'm going to replace "colloquial" by "spoken language" on the ones I've tagged. :)

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Aiji Aiji 2020년 6월 7일 2020년 6월 7일 오후 2시 40분 25초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

I haven't expressed myself properly, sorry. I didn't mean to replace "colloquial" by "spoken language" but to distinguish both. "colloquial", just like "formal" can be used both in spoken and written language. So we may have sentences tagged "spoken language" and "colloquial", others only "spoken language", etc. I guess it all depends on the language you're using (using the english denomination doesn't always make things easy!)

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Ricardo14 Ricardo14 2020년 6월 7일 2020년 6월 7일 오후 5시 17분 58초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

> sorry.

Please, don't be sorry :) We're all learning and trying to make Tatoeba awesome every single day :)

> "colloquial", just like "formal" can be used both in spoken and written language. So we may have sentences tagged "spoken language" and "colloquial", others only "spoken language", etc.

In Portuguese, many people write in the so-called "spoken language" way, I guess.

Let me try to draw you a picture :)

For short, we can't say "Me sinto feliz." (I feel happy / I'm happy ) because "me" is called an "pronome oblíquo". In order words, we can't call it, syntaxly saying, "subject". That said, we should say "Eu me sinto feliz." (Eu = I)

However, despite formal texts, everybody writes and says "Me sinto feliz." and it's the most natural way to say it - even some grammars hating its existence hehe

But it gets more interesting: "Te amo." You should have guessed that the "proper" way would be "Eu te amo.", but **no one** ever says or writes this way except if an emphasis is intended.

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orion17 orion17 2020년 6월 8일 2020년 6월 8일 오전 2시 48분 28초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Okay now I'm a bit confused whether I have to choose colloquial or spoken language 😅

anyway, since I'm only ordinary member, will you help me tag a sentence I added as spoken language?
I only hope there's an easier way to report a sentence issue like clicking a button near the sentence, so I don't have to copy the sentence number and search advanced contibutors who can help me immediately...

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Thanuir Thanuir 2020년 6월 8일 2020년 6월 8일 오전 5시 22분 56초 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Voit kirjoittaa kommentin asiasta lauseen alle.