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jmdesp jmdesp April 13, 2020 at 5:00 PM April 13, 2020 at 5:00 PM link Permalink

Hi, failing to find the sentence #188179 whatever the word inside it I search for makes me wonder if there's some problems with the indexing for Japanese.

Whether I search for "議事" "送付" "内容" or 仮, it never appears.

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brauchinet brauchinet April 13, 2020 at 5:19 PM April 13, 2020 at 5:19 PM link Permalink

I think it has something to do with the fact that this sentence is an "orphan". (It's unowned). The normal search seems to ignore orphans. You have to use the Advanced Search and set the checkbox "Is orphan" to "Any".

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jmdesp jmdesp 28 days ago, edited 28 days ago May 3, 2020 at 10:05 PM, edited May 3, 2020 at 10:05 PM link Permalink

Oh, thanks for the answer. It's a sentence from the tanaka corpus, are they the only sentences that will be orphan or can sentences added later become orphan too ?

I went on to adopt it, and now I realize I gone too fast, while the English and the Japanese don't seem erroneous by themselves, the link with it's English translation does need a native speaker review in fact.
I'm unsure agenda is a correct translation for 議事内容, it seems agenda would rather be 議事日程.
Also, while I think they are context where that sentence can be used to mean "Attached is", literally it's "I have sent".

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Guybrush88 Guybrush88 28 days ago May 3, 2020 at 10:10 PM link Permalink

> It's a sentence from the tanaka corpus, are they the only sentences that will be orphan or can sentences added later become orphan too ?

Even sentences added in this very moment can become ophans. Anyone at any moment can decide to let go the ownership of sentences at any moment, even recent contributions, so they'll become orphans.

CK CK 28 days ago May 3, 2020 at 10:19 PM link Permalink

Note that we ask members to only adopt orphan sentences in their own native languages, so if Japanese or English is not your native language, then you shouldn't adopt sentences from the Tanaka Corpus.

Rules and Guidelines
https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...how/guidelines

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Thanuir Thanuir 28 days ago May 4, 2020 at 5:28 AM link Permalink

Pikaoppaassa lukee:

> If you are 100% sure that it is correct and sounds natural, you can adopt an orphan sentence...

Se ei vaadi tai ehdota, että käyttäjän äidinkieli vastaisi lauseen äidinkieltä.

Aiji Aiji 28 days ago, edited 28 days ago May 4, 2020 at 2:09 AM, edited May 4, 2020 at 2:09 AM link Permalink

When in doubt, you can refer to the wiki (link at the bottom of the page). There are good chances that it contains answers to some of your questions.

About orphan sentence, the quick start guide quickly explain what they are and what you can do with them. https://en.wiki.tatoeba.org/art...ow/quick-start