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Setning #4599431

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Tepan Tepan 26. febrúar 2021 26. febrúar 2021 kl. 16:56:22 UTC link Tengill

ijo seme -> seme

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 10:23:10 UTC link Tengill

I'd still suggest:

ijo seme -> seme

carlosalberto carlosalberto 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 11:03:30 UTC link Tengill

I can read "mi seme?" as "I?", or "Me?", or "I, what?"...
I know that because Toki Pona does not have the verb "to be", I can also read "mi seme?" as "What am I?", but "mi ijo seme?" would not be ambiguous, know what I mean?

carlosalberto carlosalberto 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 11:17:40 UTC link Tengill

sina lukin e jan seme? / sina lukin e soweli seme? / sina lukin e waso seme? / sina lukin e pipi seme?

Why not: sina lukin e ijo seme? (?)

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 11:17:48 UTC link Tengill

Not sure I understand. I agree that "mi seme?" is ambiguous (it could mean "what am I doing?"), but I can't read "me, what?" out of it without putting a comma between "mi" and "seme". But I would find it more idiomatic to use "anu" instead: "mi anu seme?"

I also don't see how "ijo seme" is of help. If you use "ijo seme" for "what thing" (again, this would usually be simply "seme"), you still could misread "mi ijo seme?" as "mi, ijo seme?"/"mi anu ijo seme?"

I'm sorry if I'm missing a point here.

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 11:22:12 UTC link Tengill

> Why not: sina lukin e ijo seme? (?)

As I see it, "ijo" is omitted when combined with "seme", "ni" or "ale".

ijo seme -> seme
ijo ni -> ni
ijo ale -> ale

(In Pu, "ijo ala" remains "ijo ala", whereas others use "ala" also for "ijo ala".)

In Pu, we can see "pi ijo ale", though. So apparently, the omission of "ijo" doesn't occur in combination with "pi".

So, I can't say "why", but just "how" it is "seme" instead of "ijo seme".

carlosalberto carlosalberto 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 11:45:05 UTC link Tengill

This looks like Quantum Physics. You don't have to understand why, you have to accept it as it is.

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 12:34:42 UTC link Tengill

Partially yes, it is as it is, because Pu doesn't go too much into details and leaves much to infer to the reader, in my opinion.

But since "seme" means "what" and "ijo seme" wouldn't remove ambiguity, "mi seme?" should still remain the best option, I thought.

carlosalberto carlosalberto 18. mars 2022 — breytt 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 12:41:00 UTC — breytt 18. mars 2022 kl. 13:44:13 UTC link Tengill

Who am I? ➜ mi jan seme?
What am I? ➜ mi seme?
I give up.

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 12:43:20 UTC link Tengill

Don't! :(

carlosalberto carlosalberto 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 13:45:35 UTC link Tengill

I didn't. Finally, I accept it. :-)

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 13:54:49 UTC link Tengill

pona a! mi ken ala ken pana sin e linja nimi tawa sina? (sina ken kama jo sin e ona.)

carlosalberto carlosalberto 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 15:01:41 UTC link Tengill

I would appreciate that.

carlosalberto carlosalberto 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 15:03:09 UTC link Tengill

Thank you.

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 15:03:24 UTC link Tengill

Can you click on the empty user above? This should make you the owner again.

Tepan Tepan 18. mars 2022 18. mars 2022 kl. 15:03:55 UTC link Tengill

Ah, it worked, great!

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Þessi setning var upphaflega viðbætt sem þýðing af setningu #4597874What am I?.

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