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Sin #37515

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wondersz1 wondersz1 1 Novimber 2010 1 Novimber 2010 om 12:39:22 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Suggest changing that into 'Not every child likes apples' if you meant that there are some children apples and some that don't. Otherwise, the notion is that none of the children like apples.

wondersz1 wondersz1 1 Novimber 2010 1 Novimber 2010 om 13:06:24 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Quite possible. If so, can you please unlink http://tatoeba.org/eng/sentences/show/37513 from this one, otherwise it looks like it's a translation of the phrase from a different language, but in fact it has a different meaning.
Currently we have the two sentences with different meaning linked (through a translation) to each other:
All children do not like apples.
Not all children like apples.

Demetrius Demetrius 1 Novimber 2010 1 Novimber 2010 om 13:13:28 UTC flag Report link Permalink

@wondersz1:
It's not linked. As you can see, it's shown in gray. It means it's an "indirect link", i.e. it's linked via another sentence.

wondersz1 wondersz1 1 Novimber 2010 1 Novimber 2010 om 13:15:35 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Yeah, but if we take it for granted that every translation should retain the meaning of the original phrase, one of the translations is incorrect.

Demetrius Demetrius 1 Novimber 2010 1 Novimber 2010 om 13:18:11 UTC flag Report link Permalink

Currently there is no way to explicitly mark indirect translation wrong. Such a possibility is expected in the new version of Tatoeba.

Just beware thay gray translations can be incorrect. That's all we can do now. :o

wondersz1 wondersz1 1 Novimber 2010 1 Novimber 2010 om 13:27:51 UTC flag Report link Permalink

OK, thanks for letting me know )) Would be great to see this in the new version ))

CK CK 25 Maaie 2022 25 Maaie 2022 om 03:13:26 UTC flag Report link Permalink

This does match the Japanese. Both are from the Tanaka Corpus
どの子供もリンゴが好きではない。

My hypothesis is that this was an example created explicitly for explaining why this would be incorrect if you meant the following.

[#37513] Not all children like apples. (CK) *audio*

Obviously, the meaning of this sentence, #37515, isn't true.

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All children do not like apples.

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