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Some sentences (recently modified?) has become orphans. For example, I don't remember I've ever orphaned this sentence:
http://tatoeba.org/rus/sentences/show/1952204
I also saw many sentences that I've modified recently and I'm sure they had authors. For example,
http://tatoeba.org/rus/sentences/show/447887
http://tatoeba.org/rus/sentences/show/578446
It seems that some modifications still haven't been re-applied.
http://tatoeba.org/rus/sentences/show/1182429
> Navalny is the proof that letting your identity public when you blog is extremely dangerous in Russia.
No, he is not. I read the most his LiveJournal posts since 2008 and even sympathized him, as many of my friends did, in his corruption and theft disclosures. Everyone was saying, 'Look at that brave guy! He not only talks but does the real things against those dirty scumbags!' None of his posts were banned, none of his post caused his imprisonment. But, obviously, all his actions provoked the system to take retaliatory measures and it's turned out that this fighter for truth an his friends are not so innocent and clean.
So, should we consider a thief good only because he struggles against other thieves?
> And if they flee abroad, they deserve to be assassinated, preferably in a slow way, such as with ingestion of radioactive material...
Ah, that Litvinenko case. Sure, the bad Russians had no other means but Polonoum-210 to kill that stainless decent person. It was just necessary to use that substance so everyone will be certain about "the Russian trace" since Russia produces 97% of Po-210 in the world. And, of course, Putin was the one and only enemy of Litvinenko. Yep, the former FSS lieutenant colonel came against the system and the system had crucified him.
When you'll have enough free time, please think why there's still no official results of the Scotland Yard's investigation, why MI-6 officers are not allowed to comment this case and why even the most odious Russian oppositionists and human rights advocates consider Litivenko's anti-FSS and anti-Putin books and materials delirious. Unfortunately, for an obvious reason, we can't interrogate Boris Beresovsky on this case. But it seems he was the only person interested in Litvinenko death.
Oh, please, not Alexey Navalny, I beg you! He's just a good example of that if you're going to come against the powerful ones, you'd better made sure your reputation is clear as crystal first, or be certain that every little discreditable detail about you will be disclosed and used against you.
Anyway, if we talk about e-mail accounts, I assure you that Navalny has left it everywhere on the 'net including such resources as LiveJournal, Twitter, Facebook and God-only-knows-what as well. The onlt reason we hasn't published it on Tatoeba is that he, probably, is not interested in participation in such a non-scandalous project. Or, wait a minute, are you hinting at that Tatoeba admins regularly supply the Bloody Gebnya with sensitive personal data of the members? :-)
С "повышением"! :-)
soweli_Elepanto was proposed as an advanced contributor at least twice within my memory and both times there were no objections. I think, he absolutely deserves to become an advanced contributor; he's got my placet. :-)
こんにちは、keikochan1998さん。
タトエバへようこぞ!^^
Something like this:
Женщины получают меньшую заработную плату, чем мужчины.
-= Corpus maintainers' and advanced contributors' attention needed =-
I'd like to draw your attention to the fact of mass sentence linkage detected recently. Please, take a look:
http://tatoeba.org/rus/contribu...corvard/page:1
http://tatoeba.org/rus/contribu...corvard/page:4
etc.
I'm far from blaming the member who made those links for wicked design (yet) but I'd like to raise the question: should we consider acceptable the situation when a contributor links the sentences written in languages he never stated/proved his proficiency in, especially if one of those language is not his native one?
It seems that slashes are more or less standard way to mark a line break while citing the poetry (at least, it suggested in many sources). Using C-style literals ('\n') is not a very good idea, I think.
I'm voting for him with both hands.
Hi, vijaysharma!
What kind of sentences did you mean by "sentences consisting of consequences"? Can you give an example?
> How about this link? http://teaboat.net/eng.php
Still no go. The progress bar indicates that the page is being loaded but all ends up with a blank page.
> And android version... I try to do it. but have some problem. please wait.
Sure! No need to hurry. :-)
Hello, sheabi-san! :-)
TEABOAT looks pretty nice on my PC but every time I try to open it on my Android device (I'm using Dolphin browser, WebKit based), I'm getting just a blank page. Could this be fixed? And what about stand-alone application for Android? :-)
To tighten screws a bit more, I think a member shouldn't be allowed to contribute anything before he announces his country at least and, highly desirable, the language he considers his mother tongue.
> It is because there are almost no credible systems or
> guidelines to deal with that vast numbers of orphans and
> each contributer works in our own way.
Actually, the answers to many questions a contributor may ever have are already among documents in Help section (http://tatoeba.org/help). Unfortunately, those documents were never translated into Japanese and this is real problem. Additionally, as Tommy-san noticed, Japanese localization of the user interface leaves much to be desired, to put it mildly, and this is the problem, too. So, putting all together, we can outline the following vital issues concerning Japanese part of Tatoeba:
- catastrophic level of sentences of unsatisfactory quality among unadopted sentences;
- no documentation in Japanese;
- poor Japanese localization of the user interface.
Apparently, the issues above give rise to one more issue: small number of active Japanese members. And this issue affects the Tatoeba Project in a whole, I have to say, and makes things look like an exclusive circle: we need more Japanese members to improve Tatoeba but we have to improve Tatoeba to attract more Japanese members. Fortunately, and I have not the slightest doubt about it, there are all chances to break this circle and I hope you and Tommy-san, and bunbuku-san and other Japanese members can do much about this. With the help of all Tatoeba community, of course.
Tommy, I second to the most of your considerations, they are quite reasonable and clear. I think, your examples were convincing enough to leave no doubt that the need of changes is ripe. I just want to add a small remark: any idea is doomed to fail unless it has supporters. I'm sure that everyone here who, somehow or other, concerns about Japanese part of Tatoeba would do everything within his/her powers to help. And I hope, more native Japanese speakers will join us or all efforts will be wasted.
> By definition, newcomers don't know how to activate filtering options.
Quite true, so unadopted sentences could be hidden by default, I guess. Anyone interested in correcting them could then make them visible by changing personal settings in his profile. The problem is that there's not such thing as "personal settings", though... Well, maybe just hiding unadopted sentences from regular members and non-members (read: search engines) will be efficient enough for the time being.
> But here, we're facing hundreds of thousands of
> sentences that not even a fake native would adopt over a
> period of 7 years !!!
Yes, this is real problem. Every now and then I bump into sentences (I'm talking about sentences in my native language) that do have their owners but still don't worth the bytes on the hard-drive they stored on. Many of the members who wrote them are inactive for a long time and some others just tend to furiously defend their precious children no matter how ugly they are. Of course, the scale of this problem is far less than that of the one we have with Japanese and English parts of Tatoeba, but it grows as the time flows, I'm afraid. The potential number of members who produce "bad" sentences is always bigger than the number of members ready to spend their time correcting others' mistakes.
I don't really think that deletion of orphan sentences will improve the situation in long-term outlook. I'd rather said, we need structural and conceptual changes in Tatoeba engine and ideology. Splitting Tatoeba in two sections, trusted and "dirty", seems to be effective enough, though I don't know if this idea will be implemented any soon. Another, much simpler solution, is to implement a mechanism to filter (hide) unadopted sentences and sentences tagged with certain tags so people who seek for quality materials will have an instrument to sort the wheat from the chaff.